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Old 06-19-2017, 04:40 PM   #1
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Hi! I'm Melissa and I live in South Central Kentucky on twenty-five acres with my husband and son as well as two horses, a donkey, 8 dogs, 5 cats, four birds, 25 chickens, and 16 Nigerian Dwarf goats. I started the goat thing last June by buying a small herd of three does with seven babies with plans to breed them and sell the babies. I thought with all my animal raising experience, goats would be easy. My first mistake was buying a buckling without having him checked out and he introduced CL to my herd. He developed an enormous abscess on his neck which was treated at my vet's hospital and I left him there for quarantine. Unfortunately, after a week there, I brought him home and the abscess came back and burst in their pen before I caught it. We decided to put him down, but knew we were basically stuck with CL in our herd at that point. I had one of the wethers abscess about two months after that and we put him down as well.

In the meantime, all but one of the does was bred by the buckling, and no more abscesses have appeared since March. All six does had a total of eight beautiful babies and are all great mommas.
Yesterday morning, I found one of the does with a lump on her neck. Her baby is only about 4 weeks old (born 5/25) Because of the CL I do not plan on selling any of them, and will keep the herd as pets. I don't think I can handle any more culling so I'd like some advice on what to do at this point, realizing that it will probably be happening again and again.

I'm thinking I should wait until the abscess ripens, put her in a horse stall to separate her, lance it and clean it, and wait a few days for it to heal. In the meantime, does the baby need to be bottle fed? Or should I leave her with momma? And, honest question here, does separating her knowing the CL is already in the environment really help matters any or should I just leave her with the herd?

I'm sorry to go on so, and I hope it was coherent. And I would greatly appreciate any advice. Thank you.


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The baby probably won't take a bottle at this point. A idea! After you lance it can you cover it so that the pus can not come into contact with the kid? I'm thinking some cotton something or other and some vet wrap. It might work might not but at least you tried and baby can stay with mom.
I think it is very much worth not keeping her with the herd. Now that sheep and goats are being more looked into since they are no longer $50 animals they have found that cl does not live in the ground for years and years like they thought. Damp and cool (perfect living conditions for it) is like 6 months tops. Hot and dry is much less.


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At only 4 weeks old, I'm not sure it would be CL. I would watch it closely and lance it before it bursts then have pus tested.
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Jessica84 - thank you so much for the info. I will definitely separate her and the baby and try to cover the wound. That's very encouraging to know that about the lifespan of the virus in the ground. It certainly is not damp and cool here in Kentucky.

ksalvagno - I'm sorry, it's the mom that has the lump, not the baby. I was just concerned about separating them during quarantine of the mother and how to deal with the doeling - that's why I mentioned her age.
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I was reading a few days ago and saw something (no clue where at this point) about injecting the abscess with. ..goodness, I am about 100% sure it was formaldehyde. They can be left with the herd, the abscess dries up and harmlessly drops off. It might be worth looking into.
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Welcome, I am so sorry you're having such a hard time.

You were given good advice, I hope everything gets better for you.
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I was reading a few days ago and saw something (no clue where at this point) about injecting the abscess with. ..goodness, I am about 100% sure it was formaldehyde. They can be left with the herd, the abscess dries up and harmlessly drops off. It might be worth looking into.

Yes!!! There is also another study I saw on a vet page where they inject it with some kind of antibiotic during a certain stage of it growing and it's supposed to go away.
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Yes!!! There is also another study I saw on a vet page where they inject it with some kind of antibiotic during a certain stage of it growing and it's supposed to go away.
Those sounds like some pretty promising (and exciting!) Options for someone dealing with this. I think it would be definitely worth trying.
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I did a fast search on the group and can't find it. I know a vet shared it but said he himself has never tried it but I can't even start to guess what it is that was used :/
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I will try, as well. Maybe one of us can find a link to post.


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