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Old 09-08-2010, 12:12 AM   #1
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Default Copper toxicity? ***update*** pg 2

I did our copper bolusing today as a few of our goats are starting to show deficiencies.... one doeling in particular has a VERY brittle coat and the noticeable fish tail. I gave her a dosage (in bread) and she quite enjoyed it.. however I had a handful with a few other goats dosages and my herd queen bumped it out of my hand.... my doeling ( the deficient one) ate 3 kid dosages before I could collect them all... how concerned should I be????????



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Old 09-08-2010, 12:29 AM   #2
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Liz had a situation, and I think that it was with copper - however, she didn't do the bolus I believe - but something else. hopefully she will be on soon to let you know her experience.



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I really hope she will be ok.... it is my 5 year olds goat and she loves her sooooo much. She Spends her evenings giving her treats, taking her for walks and giving her hugs and lots of love. Plus she is the only polled, blue eyed doeling my 6 year old moonspotted doe has ever produced. She has only given me horned doelings in the past.

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I had used a copper sulphate drench and the signs of toxicity were immediate, typical signs of poisoning, throwing themselves down and crying out. I did lose a doe almost 48 hours later and she showed no sign of poisoning, was off for a day and I thought she'd be allright, I found her dead early the next morning...it was like she died in her sleep.

Copper will affect the liver function first, toxicity arises when the liver is taxed...I'm not sure how to treat when a bolus is given but what I did with Stacey and Ashley's help was to give them activated charcoal followed by doses of milk of magnesia....I do believe that this is what saved the two year old does, Tilly, the one that passed didn't show the signs that they did but she was given MOM anyhow...I'm thinking that IF I would have given them all the charcoal I likely wouldn't have lost her.

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now I am not an expert on this BUT from my limited learning the rods are slow release of copper into their system once the rods attach themselves to the lining of the rumen.

SO with that inmind I would give her MOM and some activated charcoal. The MOM will help to pass everything a long faster which inturn will keep the rods from settling. The Charcoal helps in absorbing toxins.

I have heard of people giving lots of copper with no ill effects but if it was my goat and knowing how special she is the above is what I would do for the reasons specified.

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there's something called (& I may have this only partly right) called molyembem?? is it? to counteract copper but have no experience

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nancy, you're on the right track....molybedum is naturally found in the soil as well as plants and if there is an imbalance due to too much iron in the soil it will cause malabsorption of copper, I don't know wether molybedum can be purchased to use as a counter action or if there would be any side affects from it's use.

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I will pray... that they will be OK....

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charcoal powder / tabs, will help with poisoning, we've had to use it with copper drench,
dolomite & vitamin c are also helpful

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Hope this helps .... If too much copper is administered orally - dolomite, vitamin C powder orally and vitamin B15 injections together give a quick cure



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