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Old 07-17-2009, 03:49 AM   #1
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Just been trimming my girls, and a couple of them, Spot in particular, has something funky going on with her feet. She's been lame on and off on one front leg, but I chalked it up to a bruise because Vanity hit her pretty hard a few weeks ago. Well, when I trimmed her feet, the hoof wall (the hard bit round the outside) has separated from the sole (the rubbery inner bit). It is quite a big hole, and its on the outside toe of both front feet, back feet are fine. Two other does had a much smaller degree of this, and by trimming away the long horn, by the time it was level to the sole, there was no hole/separation.

Spot is a different story, the hole goes almost all the way up to the coronet. I've trimmed the horn back in line with the sole, and trimmed the sole down a bit, but there is still this huge gaping hole. And I'm at a loss - what do I do with it??

The hooves themselves look healthy, not mucky, oozy, flaky or anything. The skin between the toes is healthy. They have a smell - but I've always thought that hooves smelt a bit, and these dont smell any more than normal, to me. But maybe I'm weird.

I'll take a picture, I'm just eating lunch then I will get out there and get a picture for you.



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I have some where the wall separates sometimes. I just cut away the stuff that has separated and put blue kote on it. Never had them be lame from it or have separation to the degree you say some of yours have it. Do you have iodine or some sort of thrush/anti fungal remedy you could put on it?



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I have Vetadine, could mix some up and put it on the foot ... I'm also going to get some sawdust or something to lay in their muddy yard, maybe that will help. Pour it in the hole you reckon?

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Yeah. I would put the stuff in the hole. Clean it out as well as you can first.

Maybe wrap it to stop dirt from going right back in the hole?

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Okay here are the pics. I was wrong, its the inside toe on each front foot, not the outside



I've added some lines in paint in case you cant see:



The big bit outlined in blue in the middle is of course the sole, the blue outlined bit on the right is the gap between the sole and the horn (green squiggle inside), the red bit on the left is horn but it is solid to the sole, no hole. Gosh I hope that makes sense.

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We have this occur often when the weather gets wet. It is what some call foot rot or hoof rot. We usually give them a shot of LA-200 if they become lame and trim off any hoof that may retain moisture or any of the funky black stuff that accumulates (please excuse my spelling!) scrape it all off well and wash with soapy, strong bleach water. Allow to dry and treat liberally with coppertox hoof treatment. Coppertox acts as an astringent and protctive coating, allow it to dry thoroughly. Keep them out of any muddy areas if possible and provide a dry area for them to bed down in. If there is an extended period of wet weather you may consider making the goats walk through a foot bath with strong bleach water when they come in from the pasture to bed down for the night. Use generic cheapo bleach cuz it is still chlorine bleach, not the chemical that Chlorox sells now days that they pass off as bleach.
I know I brag about how dry and hot it is in Texas, but we get our wet weather patterns that drop feet of rain instead of inches. As I said, cut back any areas that wet, scummy stuff can accumulate in and treat with coppertox and the hoof should heal and grow back kinda like a fingernail does when you lose it, just keep it clean and disinfected!
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Trim the blue, pocket-like area back all of the way to the quick(?) and clean it thoroughly asnd treat as I described before.

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thanks so much Fred.

Question, will the horn re-attach to the sole, or do I have to wait for it to grow out?

It is much much wetter here than normal, and although they have dry areas they have still been walking in mud quite a bit, poor goaties.

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It will regrow once you cut off the area that is causing the pocket. You need to remove that in order to eliminate the fungus and bad stuff in there and allow it to dry out and heal. Squirt the coppertox liberally on it and allow it time to dry before they get back in the slush.

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I woudnt cut it all back in one shot but in like stages every other day go and clip off abit more - dont want her ot get tender footed more then necessary



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