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Old 06-29-2009, 05:35 AM   #1
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Default How do you go about testing for CL/CAE/Johne's?

First, though, do you test for all three? In my area, everyone advertises that their goats are CAE free, some CL, but I haven't herd mention of Johne's.

How do you determine if you need to test for each of the diseases? Also, how do you go about it? Do you go to the vet and they take samples and mail it off, or what?

I want to know for the future, and also because the last time my two were tested was last august, so it's coming up and I want to know if I should expand what I'm testing for.

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Old 06-29-2009, 05:59 AM   #2
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CAE + Johnes = blood test

I'm not sure about the CL because I vaccinate ...

Sorry, I'll give you a bit longer answer a bit later - a goat just rocked up on my front verandah ... not one of mine lol think I better go see where she came froM!



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I drew all of my goats blood on my own for the first time this last May. It was pretty easy and it saved me a lot of money doing it myself. I bought the tubes, needles, syringes, drew the blood and sent it in to WADDL.

I tested mine for CAE/CL and Johnes. What you test your goats for depends on the purpose of your goats(IMO)....pets, breeding, selling, milking....etc.

I wish you were a little closer I'd be willing to help you, besides I still have 75 blood collection tubes that will take years for me to use.

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First, though, do you test for all three? In my area, everyone advertises that their goats are CAE free, some CL, but I haven't herd mention of Johne's.

How do you determine if you need to test for each of the diseases? Also, how do you go about it? Do you go to the vet and they take samples and mail it off, or what?

I want to know for the future, and also because the last time my two were tested was last august, so it's coming up and I want to know if I should expand what I'm testing for.

Thanks!
Okay I'm back lol

Okay, so blood tests for all three. Johnes can be either blood or faecal, faecal takes longer but it a touch more accurate, but really blood tests are easier and do just fine. CL can be done on the blood but again I think its less accurate, than testing the pus from an abcess (if the goat has an abcess that is!) Also be aware that if the goats have been vaccinated for Johnes or CL (no vaccine for CAE) then they will show up a positive result even if they dont have the disease.

Really, if you just have pet goats, and sell a few off as pets, there probably is no need to test them, unless you see signs of the disease in the herd. However, if you are breeding for seedstock, or showing, you probably do need to test.

I test annually. The nice thing is you can collect the blood, and have tests done for the three diseases and PREGNANCY as well, if you time it right.

You can get your vet (or a friend if they know how) to show you how to take the blood, send it to the lab directly, or to the vet to send to the lab, or you can have the vet take the blood.
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I tested this past spring for the first time. Sent everything to WADDL since I wanted CL and Johnes but there is one that does a good CAE test that is cheeper.

Once each of my goats is tested negative for CL then I wont be testing them for CL again unless one comes up positive then I will have to test everyone again. But I keep a fairly closed herd.

I spot tested for Johnes also and that came up negative I didnt feel the need to test all the goats for Johnes since it is very contagious and if one has it then they all do.

I used blood for all my testing. Doesnt take much blood to do all three

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Thank you for all the responses! Currently, my two are for milk/pets, but I really would like to show and breed as well, on the small scale for 3-5 years, and then I'll be able to expand a whole lot. Neither of mine have shown any disease symptoms, this is just for information.

My mom was a nurse, so I'm sure she could show me how to draw blood. Do I just mail it to them? Is there a form somewhere to download and fill out? And where do you get the syringes/vials?

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yup..you'd mail it in a box or padded envelope..If your going through WADDL you'll need these two forms...
General Accession Sheet
http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts_waddl/forms/AcessionGeneralDiagnosticsWADDL.pdf

ID sheet for multiple animals
http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts_waddl/forms/IdentificationSheetMutipleAnimalsWADDL-014.pdf

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Man, I wish I was going to be going to the west side for a weekend!!!

How far are you from Seatac? I know that plane tickets are like $40.00 each way, and I could hop on a plane and fly over for a day and help ya....

How many goats do you have? Are you breeding for quality animals or only for pets or are you wanting to breed at all?

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I think she has two goats Allison

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Hey Allison? Since you are offering, wanna make a really far trip and show me? I have 8 I'd really like to have tested.



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