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Old 03-07-2011, 10:21 PM   #1
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hi,
Pippin has had lice since last year. he's itchy but apart from that doesn't seem to be bothered. Someone at southern states recommended food grade diatomaceous earth... does anyone have any experience with this?
Is there anything else that might be good? I'd rather not use any nasty chemicals since it doesn't really seem to bother him too much... but it might be nice to get rid of them......
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:30 PM   #2
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The DE is a "natural" way to get rid of them BUT even if you think they aren't bothering him too much, imagine how it feels to be constanly bitten by something you can't see, I would consider dusting him with either Sevin or Python livestock dust, as well as his home. There are 2 types of lice, biting and sucking, both can cause other issues with hair loss, sores that lead to infection and the sucking lice can cause anemia. If Pippin has them then so does Merry.

The DE can be given in food to help with internal parasites but to rid them of external, you'll need to use it as a dust.



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Old 03-07-2011, 10:40 PM   #3
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I have a really hard time thinking that DE can do anything internally because the way it works on contact is it dehydrates the insect causing death. We use it in a dust bath for out chickens and it works great that way (do NOT breath in the dust, and don't get it in your eyes, same for youy animals) But I reeally don't see it doing a whole lot internally.


Yes, it is natural, (fossilized agae I believe) and I am all for that! But remember just because something is natural doesn't mean it is the best product. Lots of Natural things are quite deadly.

Breathing in DE can be quite harmful to your lungs. If you already have lung problems don't use it.

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Sevin dust like you use on plant's? My lil vinny has some hair loss on his ear's, i don't see any bug's could it be lice??

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I also have used Seven dust, works GREAT!! It should be at a local feed store and its not that expensive!

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Sevin dust like you use on plant's? My lil vinny has some hair loss on his ear's, i don't see any bug's could it be lice??

Yes, the plant dust, you can get it in the canister or the bag, though my goats don;t have lice, I do use it in the barn after a thorough cleaning to keep the insects away..I even splatter it on the walls , it helps keep flies down too.
Just don't breathe it in and when you apply it close to your goats nose or eyes, sprinkle it in your hand first then rub it in.

DE doesn't only dehydrate, it also slices up parasites due to it's microscopic razor sharp composition...it won't hurt an animal, just the parasites that inhabit that animal.
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I know that a whole lot of people feel DE works well as an ingestable parasite control, but I just don't understand how it works internally. Externally it slices the protected coverings of the bugs and then dehydrates them. Works GREAT! But I don't get how something can be dried out when it is in a wet enviroment such as the intestines. I'm not saying it doesn't work, just that I don't understand how LOL!

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I use a product called Cylence that is approved for cattle. Works awesome in the goats & can be used on young kids also. 1cc per 25 pounds down the their neck & back. It is recommended on Fiasco Farms website. Made by Bayer, it's a pour-on insecticide for control of horn flies, face flies, biting & sucking lice on beef & dairy cattle including lactating cattle. I've used it on my goats every spring & I think it's awesome. Very easy to use & I've never had any bad effects develop from it. It works quickly. An initial application makes a huge difference & it is recommended to follow up with a 2nd dose after 3 weeks to make sure they lice doesn't come back.

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@Pelican Acres (or other who use similar products) have you used this on Preggo doe's??? I had someone ask me about using Ultra Boss on Preggo doe's (or Permethrin, etc)... I had to think about it, but I've never actually used it on my doe's DURING their pregnancy...but I do know that my Ultra Boss bottle has no meat withdrawal and no milk withdrawal AND says it's say for lactating animals... So?????

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I have used coral on pregnant does, seemed to work well.
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