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Old 01-12-2014, 11:21 PM   #1
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I have a boer doe that is in her first pregnancy. She is right on time with kidding, with in a few days, but yesterday there was a little discharge so I though yay maybe there will kids in the morning. Got up this morning and there was blood but no babies. So I scoured her pen, 1/2 acre pen, and no sign of baby or babies. Or where one would have even been born. She still has blood, every time she urinates, and no babies. She is fully bagged and just touching her bag causes milk/colostrum to leak. I don't understand it. I have reduced the size of her pen to about a 10X10 area right next to the gate where I can see her from the front door. Does anyone have any advice for me?



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Old 01-12-2014, 11:30 PM   #2
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How much blood? Just a teeny bit or enough to cover her vulva?

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It sounds like she kidded. Try bumping her belly, in front of her udder. Bump up and hold your hand there...if you feel something "thump" back against your hand, there is a kid in there. Is she pushing, laying down often, pawing at the ground?

Could anything have gotten the kids? Dogs, birds, anything?

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Old 01-12-2014, 11:40 PM   #5
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I bumped her belly about an hour ago when trying to find a heart beat with a stethoscope and her belly bumped back.. there WAS a heart beat there. And yes she is laying down more than usual, almost exclusively. But getting up and walking around periodically as well as eating and drinking.
and yes it is enough blood to cover her vulva and tail. She is lifting her tail and is all sunk in back there. I know that this is her first kidding and that for some this can take a little longer but this is excessive to me.
Where we live there is always a chance that a large bird or something could have gotten the kid (North East Texas, lots of hawks, some bald eagles, all kinds of predators) but I am not so sure this is the case.
Is there anything that I can do for her other than trying to reach a vet on a Sunday in a small town during hunting season? They aren't exactly easy to reach in my area right now.

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I had a doe that did this too...looked like she kidded but no kids. I had been in town so no clue what happened but her water might have broke way before I got to her. Anyways called uncle to hold her and went in and had to pull a big kid. I would see if there is something there for you to pull out. She was not pushing or anything which added to me being confused.

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You could lube up and go in see if the kid is stuck. But is she actually pushing or was she yesterday? Is it bright red blood or a darker brownish? I would try and find a vet just incase

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Its a bright red..... I'll have to call out one of my in laws to show me how to do a pull... I haven't done one of those before...never had reason to go into that area. If the baby is still in there (which I strongly think is the case) what would be the best way to remove it or is it just a case of rearranging the kid and let nature take its course?

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You need to go in and pull the kid out. You will have to get it in the right position to get it out. Hopefully she hasn't closed back up yet. This is an emergency and needs to be done now.

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Old 01-13-2014, 12:12 AM   #10
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I'll try...just came back in from out there and checking on her... she is just laying there near her hay slowly munching away at it... in all honesty she looks like she is just settling in for the night to go to bed...Gah....why does she have to look like she can go to sleep while I am stressing out because of her and her kids?



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