Thanks Sarah ! It amazes me how a girl so sweet with people can be such a stinker. I had to laugh yesterday ... she is currently in with the two does I'm currently milking, since I don't dare put her in with my preggo girl and young keeper doelings from this year and can't put her in the big pasture since that is where Red is and she terrorizes Red ... anyways, I had Morgan in the milk room milking and Tootie is hollering outside because she is not allowed in ... I hear a THUMP THUMP THUMP at the door and look over and Tootie is standing up looking thru the glass in the door "knocking". It was hysterical ! I'm going to try and get a pic of her looking in like that LOL We may try having her live with the Kathadins, since I know she can't beat them up, but I haven't decided for sure.