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Old 03-16-2009, 07:48 PM   #1
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Thursday Christy had 3 kids 2girls and 1boy. She is now rejecting one of the girls. It's more than not letting her nurse
she will but the poor kid. This is the little girl that we had to bottle feed and work with to get her drinking from the teat.
Baby goat was on the teat Friday and Saturday then Sunday Christy didn't want anything to do with her and didn't
want her around. I had to remove Christy from the birthing stall and all 3 babies because I was afraid she would hurt
the one. WOW did I have a pissed off Mom goat. She wanted to take it out on everybody. I had to hobble her to milk
her. When she buts with the other goats it did not look like playing. She also wants a piece of Henna our LGD puppy.
I don't like seeing any of my goats upset but I can't think of any way that she can be with her kids.
If anyone has suggestions please let me know.

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Old 03-16-2009, 07:59 PM   #2
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Did you take all the babies from her? Are you doing hat also so you can milk her?

Sometimes they reject a baby because they know something is wrong with them. It is kind of weird that she would reject that baby after she was in with her fora few day.

I would put her in the milk stand and let that baby nurse.



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Old 03-16-2009, 08:44 PM   #3
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I agree, after having the doeling with her and then rejecting her, mom senses that there is something wrong...if she was taking care of ther other 2 then I would let them with her, but keep the rejected one away and bottlefeed.

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Two options here:
1) remove the kid she doesnt like, foster it on another doe or bottle rear it.
2) force her to accept all three kids.

I tend to go with option two because those does need to do their job properly for me. So here's what I would do. I use a metal mesh crate inside the kidding pen, I put ALL the kids into that so that she cant hurt the one and cant feed the other two. Then I tie the doe up and let the kids out to nurse. Hold her still if necessary, sometimes even tying her leg to the fence is necessary. Dont let her smell the kids at all. When they are finished nursing put all of them back in the crate. I do this several times a day, depending on how old and strong the kids are. After a few days she starts to struggle less when you tie her to feed them, and eventually she will accept them. The longest I've gone like this was two weeks.

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everyone has such good advice.....

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Did you give the baby milk from another mom? I did this with Kitten and Sweet Pea took her back till Kitten started to poop out the milk that wasnt from SP and then SP was butting her and stomping at her, I had to remove her till she was bigger. I help SP for Kitten to nurse but she never accepted her as her own.

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Did you give the baby milk from another mom? I did this with Kitten and Sweet Pea took her back till Kitten started to poop out the milk that wasnt from SP and then SP was butting her and stomping at her, I had to remove her till she was bigger. I help SP for Kitten to nurse but she never accepted her as her own.
That is what I was thinking also. Once they smell like another goats baby they will not normally take theme back.
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Wow so many ideas I hadn't thought of. Sunday I tried having the baby around Christy and she butt her. The little one wasn't even trying to nurse.

I haven't had any other goats near the kids.

someone is going to buy the boy and pick him up today. That will leave the girl she likes and the girl she doesn't like.

I think I am going to try and force Christy to except the kid partly because it makes my heart ache seeing Christy so sad and/or pissed off.

I will keep you posted on our progress.

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Thanks for the update. Congrats on selling the boy, are they keeping him as a buck or did you already band him? Just wondering.

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yes... thank you for updating ...and congrats on the selling him...



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