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Old 07-13-2009, 01:06 PM   #1
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I just acquired an 8.5 week ND buck with prominent scurring. His owner disbudded him and she has always done a thorough job and never gets scurs. So I couldn't believe when I saw this growth. A good half inch, it's not the thin type scurs, but quite thick and thick around the base. She seemed to think they would eventually drop off, but I doubt it.
Now this buck is a big boy, one of the largest I've seen at two months. He looks twice is age. I'm sure his maturation is fueling testosterone and thus the escalating growth.
So I am mulling over the best option to remove these. If I were to reburn, I'd have to pare down the growth. How much could I actually get down without a lot of bleeding to do the job? If I got enough off I could still get an iron around it.
Or would it be better to try and elastrate the scurs? I have always heard to wait several months before banding.
Thanks for all insights.



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Old 07-13-2009, 01:11 PM   #2
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I would try the bands -- Never done it myself but if the base is as wide as you say then the iron isnt going to get it all



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I had a buck with bad scurs. I gave him a bit of happy juice, cut off the growth and re-burned him. It actually worked pretty good.

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Old 07-13-2009, 02:16 PM   #4
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What tool did you use to cut off the growth and how much did you pare down? "Happy juice" - a sedative or what?

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I used acepromazine to sedate him but you don't need to sedate them. Cut the growth off with hoof nippers as close to the skull as possible and a Rhineharrt x30 to burn.

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Old 07-13-2009, 03:54 PM   #6
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I got more info. It seems this buck was not disbudded until 3-4 weeks old (yikes!) and he had little horns (expectedly!) by then. The owner pared down the growth to a clean head and then disbudded. But it didn't stop the growth.
BTW, his sire was disbudded by a competent goater at under a week old and still developed nasty scurs. So it seems this line perhaps is stubborn that way.
I remember years ago I did a poor disbudding job and had a vet do a surgical removal. A clean head at first, but the buck nonetheless developed some pretty bad scurs.
So now I wonder whether another burn will do any good? I've had very hit and miss results and one time I barely started with the iron when I got profuse bleeding and had to stop.
Might a banding be a better option?

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The bands will take them off, but there is still chance that he will scur, mainly because of the "stubborn" regrowth bloodlines.
shave as you would for a burn and get the bands as close to the skull as you can, because these are scurs there isn't as much bloodflow to them as if they were full horns and they should come off in a short amount of time....trying to keep the flies off of him will likely be the hardest task.

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when disbudding buck kids lots of breeders burn more than one spot for each horn, because their horn base is so wide, you may need to burn one over the other..

I woulndt go lopping off goat horns if you dont have any experience though...I'd try the bands, worked good for me...

so band the horns, then take the disbudder and do like the olympic rings on his head to stop all horn growth

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Old 07-13-2009, 09:55 PM   #9
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I have a fair amount of experience disbudding and have learned to really hit the bucks thoroughly. But re-doing a buck that was initially burned at almost a month old is a daunting task. I'll get a good look at him tomorrow, try paring down the growth and see which option looks best. He's still just two months so maybe a reburn might do it?

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ok do you have a picture?



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