Foundation doe selection

Discussion in 'Beginners Goat Raising' started by teemogoat, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. teemogoat

    teemogoat Member

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    Mar 14, 2016
    How big of a role does having good stock in the background play versus just "what ma and pa look like" in registered stock?

    Would you stay away from a doeling that's smaller than average, even though her dam and sire look good and she has a good family tree? Or is she, even though smaller, likely to pop out normal size or bigger offspring?

    Thanks
     
  2. goatblessings

    goatblessings Fair-Haven

    Jan 5, 2015
    Southwest Ohio
    If you are serious about registered stock, the selection of sire and dams is extremely important. Researching genetics, show records, appraisals, and milk records if applicable all play a part in planning your herd.
    What the current sire and dam "look like" gives you just a small snapshot. I would pass on a small doe, she may have some health issues that inhibited growth.
    I would also go with tested herds that can show proof of being disease free.
     

  3. ShireRidgeFarm

    ShireRidgeFarm Active Member

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    Sep 24, 2015
    Northern WV
    Is the doe small because she is/was diseased and sickly, or just small because that's the way she is? If it's not due to illness (and she wasn't excessively small) that would not be a 'make or break' factor for me.

    Last year my smallest doe had quadruplets. I had to assist with delivering the kids (the second and third kid were coming out at the same time, and one of them was backwards) but no real issues otherwise. She raised them all on her own, and her kid I kept is the biggest of all the babies I kept and pretty much as been from the start.
     
  4. Jessica84

    Jessica84 Well-Known Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    California
    Keep in mind that doe will be a 'ma' one day and will have people looking at her to decide if they want her offspring. I myself, if the doe is really small I would pass, mainly because I think of kidding issues. Now if she's just a little small I would think about why and probably chance it. She may have been a triplet and the smaller of the three, maybe got pushed around by the other kids that sorda thing. Really it would come down to how much do I like her lines and do I want to chance it. Some it's worked out great! I bought a buck with fantastic lines but he was small and not real nice looking.....I noticed he wasn't being fed the best of feed but I chanced him. Best investment ever!! I've had other ones that I just poured the feed to and finally threw in the towel and said I'm not going to breed that!
     
  5. teemogoat

    teemogoat Member

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    Mar 14, 2016
    Breeder says that she wasn't sick (and she does her own fecals), that she was just small versus the parents (whom I've saw pics of).
     
  6. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator

    Jul 20, 2008
    corning california
    You want your foundation stock to be of good or normal size. If they are smaller, they may have kidding issues you do not want.
    If you look at the Sire and Dam and if they are big, chances are, that kid had cocci/worms in the past. Always stunts growth. So be cautious.
     
  7. teemogoat

    teemogoat Member

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    Mar 14, 2016
    Thank you all
     
  8. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator

    Jul 20, 2008
    corning california
    You bet. ;)