Goat wont eat.

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by Hidden Waters Farm, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. Hidden Waters Farm

    Hidden Waters Farm New Member

    444
    Oct 3, 2010
    Maine
    I have a 3 yr old full sized dairy breed doe that just doesnt want to eat, She is underweight and weak. Well, Since day 1 she would only smell the grain and walk away (Its the same grain she had always been fed) which did seem odd but I was ok with it. Then over a month ago I changed grains to something more suitable for for our local needs and both her and all my other goats like it much better, she would even eat 2-3 mouth fulls of it, but 2 weeks later she wouldnt touch it. So I went out and bought her old grain with no results which I figured because she didnt like it before - Which was fine because she was in good weight on hay and browse only by her choice. Then fall came so browse and leaf supply is low she was only getting hay. With only hay available and its getting colder (we had snow the other day) she will only eat a little bit of it. Every other goat we have loves the diet they are on and are in perfect weight for the coming winter.

    I give free choice grass hay, baking soda and goat minerals and shes not interested in any of it. I have tried giving her Calf Manna that I had bought it to supplement a slow going doeling and she acted like she didnt like the taste and spit out the pellets. I tried dry beet pulp shreds and wet shreds she would nibble 1-2 times. She just turns her up her nose at whatever I give her after she trys it. I just dont understand, Im not feeding her any differently then before I got her. I have not tried Alfalfa pellets or cubes yet but I will be getting them soon. I did think worms may be an issue but we dewormed her and everyone else with Ivermectin when we got her a little over a month ago, She had been dewormed when needed with the previous owner also. I did try a nutrient drench and a free choice mix in water with little results. The vet near me does treat livestock but we used him for our horses and now I will only get rabies shots or treatment for cats and dogs only from them as they dont seem knowledgeable, I know they have no goat experience and the office fee is high for them to not have a clue on how to treat her.

    I really would hate to loose her and her good lines and her siblings from either parents sell for $500+, shes open/dry but a great milker I hoped to breed this year but I understand if she doesnt improve then I must put her down before winter. Her breed with remain anonymous because of a possible diagnosis that to me seems to fit her case. (I probably just gave it away there)

    So any ideas? Feel free to ask questions about her or her diet.
     
  2. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator

    Jul 20, 2008
    corning california
    Get a temp on her first....I also would recommend... taking a fecal in... to have her tested for cocci and worms..... :hug:
     

  3. Hidden Waters Farm

    Hidden Waters Farm New Member

    444
    Oct 3, 2010
    Maine
    Alright, I know they do the fecal testing and I will specifically ask about both, Last time I got a fecal they only told me there were worms present because I didnt specify.

    Thanks.
     
  4. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator

    Jul 20, 2008
    corning california
    Your welcome.... let us know...

    still get a temp on her... :hug:
     
  5. Hidden Waters Farm

    Hidden Waters Farm New Member

    444
    Oct 3, 2010
    Maine
    Yes yes of course, Ill make sure to get the temperature. Im not at home nor have a way to get there right now but Ill get it done tonight or early tomorrow and ill post ASAP. Should her nanny berries be refrigerated until I get it to the vets office?

    Thanks
     
  6. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    im not sure what her breed has anythign to do with what maybe wrong with her :shrug:

    Anyway sounds like she might be depressed from the move. Does she have a buddy in the barn or does she stay to herself?

    Did you ask her former owners if she ate grain well before? Some goats just arent grain eaters (yah strange I know but I had one for a while, she eventually snapped out of it a bit, still loves her hay more).

    getting a temp on her is good to see if she might be dealing with an infection. I have a goat who goes off feed every couple months and a couple shots of antibiotics and she does better - the indicator she needs antibiotics is the temp.

    Have you given her any probios?
     
  7. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator

    Jul 20, 2008
    corning california
    How is she today? :hug:
     
  8. Hidden Waters Farm

    Hidden Waters Farm New Member

    444
    Oct 3, 2010
    Maine
    I did a rectal on her and the temp came out to be 97.2. I had originally thought she fit the G-6-S deficiency but shes a Lamancha. I got her and her half sister together and its only been them since her sister was born a tad over a year ago. she is in with 6 other does so I dont think shes lonely plus she was the boss doe before she started this and I have not seen her bullied. Now that shes like this she tends to lay in the barn semi-alone, but before she and her sister were like glue. I have tried to contact the previous owners, she had borrowed an e-mail address from a neighbor and the reason she was selling them was because she was moving so I dont have a clue where she is. I had a few other questions but they were never answered due to that.

    I have not given her any Probios yet, she wont accept anything so it would have to be in a drench. How much is recommended? Should I try penicillin? she is wobbly today, I dont know how much longer she will last in this condition but I just cant understand why shes doing this because she was happy when we got her since she could browse where she only had a dirt pen before. Is it worth trying some sort of treatment then nothing at all because either it will work or she will pass on anyway? Im willing to try anything. Are there any diseases that fit this type of description? I didnt get a fecal in because I sat out there for 2 hours after the temp check and she didnt poop and I had to leave - But I know she did the yesterday I just didnt know to collect it at the time.

    Thanks.
     
  9. liz

    liz New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    Her temp is really low...it should not be under 100, normal is 101 to 103.5, her not wanting to eat with such a low temp is sorta good, the rumen does not function properly when the temp is low, she needs to be warmed up and give her probiotics and an injection of B Complex will help stimulate her appetite...but get her temp up first.
     
  10. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    never heard of it


    as to the temp yes Liz is correct that temp is TO LOW! she needs to be warmed up.

    Give her some probios for sure and maybe some MOM.

    The B complex will aid in giving her some appetite.

    Antibiotics at this point are hard to say because she seems to be fighting something but I dont know what.

    Can you get a vet to do some blood work and a fecal?
     
  11. Hidden Waters Farm

    Hidden Waters Farm New Member

    444
    Oct 3, 2010
    Maine
    Im working on the Fecal, what types of blood tests? like I said in my first post our vet is not a goat vet and the only thing I get there for livestock is rabies for the horses because its required by law. If I could request something specific then they might do ok there though. I did have a blanket on her but she continued to flip it under her belly (sort of like you could picture a saddle) and she couldnt walk anywhere because she was stepping on the back part of it. She has a good coat but shes in a draft free "run in" type shelter. Ill give her a round of Probios tonight.

    Thanks.
     
  12. lissablack

    lissablack New Member

    Nov 30, 2009
    I thought G6S was a nubian thing.

    Jan
     
  13. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    have the vet run a blood test to check her white blood cell count. This will let you know if she has an infection or not.
     
  14. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator

    Jul 20, 2008
    corning california
    Let us know... how the tests go..... :hug:
     
  15. Hidden Waters Farm

    Hidden Waters Farm New Member

    444
    Oct 3, 2010
    Maine
    Yes it is and that is why I didnt post because I wanted to see if anyone has the same guess.

    She didnt pull through, she died in my arms this morning... :angel2:
     
  16. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator

    Jul 20, 2008
    corning california
    I am so very sorry... for your loss... it is never easy..... :( you did everything you could for her.... my heart goes out to you.... :hug:
     
  17. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    I'm sorry for your loss
     
  18. lissablack

    lissablack New Member

    Nov 30, 2009
    I'm so sorry you lost her. She isn't suffering any more.

    Jan
     
  19. Hidden Waters Farm

    Hidden Waters Farm New Member

    444
    Oct 3, 2010
    Maine
  20. melb1

    melb1 New Member

    87
    Sep 28, 2010
    Melbourne Australia
    So sorry for your loss