Not sure if this would go in the Kidding Koral instead? Sorry if so! I had two kids born last night around 7pm, so they're 20 hours old as of this writing, and they're having problems getting on their feet and walking. The girl seems delicate but she can stand on all her hooves, I haven't seen her actually walk yet. The boy I haven't actually seen stand, his legs just are very floppy, and he's putting the front of his pasterns on the ground instead of his front hooves. They're both very lively and alert and healthy seeming, and try to get up and move around constantly, I wouldn't call them weak. They did get colostrum about an hour after birth (we had to hold the mom still to let them nurse, but they both found the teat easily and went to town) and have eaten consistently since then. Mom Sel-Vit E gel about three weeks ago, and all three of them got a dose this morning. My plan is to massage the buckling's front legs to help them straighten out and keep making sure they're eating and hopefully the selenium will kick in, BUT: another post I read said that it could also be copper deficiency, so my question: Is there a way to tell if it is copper deficiency versus selenium or something else? I don't have any copper on hand, what do you guys recommend as the best/fastest product/source/dosage? Also, another post I read said that lack of room in the uterus can cause bent joints like that, and these twins were in a pretty small doe, so I'm thinking that might also be related... Thanks ya'll in advance!