Leaving collars on your goats

Discussion in 'Goat Frenzy' started by keren, Dec 19, 2008.

  1. keren

    keren owned by goats

    Oct 26, 2008
    Australia
    Looking at photos it seems some of you leave collars on your goats permanently.

    I can see the benefits and would like to do it with my dairies, but I am afraid to do it because I had a doe this year get her collar snagged on the tree in her yard, she hung herself.

    Your thoughts?

    Can you get collars that will break in emergencies?
     
  2. PiccoloGoat

    PiccoloGoat goat girl x0x0

    Sep 10, 2008
    Australia
    well my mum as a nurse had a lanyard for her ID that could snap open when pulled enough, because sometimes pateints are crazy and pose a big danger for nurses, especially with ID tags around their necks.

    So you could probably find them for goats

    One thing though, wouldnt they somehow be able to rub them off?
     

  3. keren

    keren owned by goats

    Oct 26, 2008
    Australia
    That sounds like something that would suit me, Alyssa. I am after a collar that they can leave on, that I can grab and lead them to the milk stand with, but if they get it caught on something and they pull hard enough it will break. I suppose if they rubbed hard on something they might get it off but I could deal with putting them back on every now and then if it meant that the risk of strangling was minimal.

    The doe that hung herself was a $2000 doe from Mugambi stud, fully imported from south africa as an embryo :tears:

    Btw I love that you have a ticker for sydney show!
     
  4. PiccoloGoat

    PiccoloGoat goat girl x0x0

    Sep 10, 2008
    Australia
    oh wow..
    Seems the bad things happen to the things that cost the most :doh:
     
  5. lesserweevil

    lesserweevil New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    my goats all have collars - and actually none of them are the "break away" type. You can get them with plastic buckles that snap open though, if pulled hard enough. However if you try to tie one up with that kind of collar they'll quickly learn how much pressure is needed to open it (as Will did :roll: )
     
  6. karmouth

    karmouth New Member

    121
    Dec 1, 2008
    ocala, FL
    I also use the colllar's with the plastic buckles. I also make sure they are adjustable and on the large size . If there is a problem first the collar gets larger and if the pressure is constant the buckle will break. The secret is to buy cheap ones . I get mine at the dollar store . They also come in handy at kidding time . I color code moms and babies. I have boe's and hubby and son find it hard to tell who goes with who when its time to put them up at night.
    Karen
     
  7. keren

    keren owned by goats

    Oct 26, 2008
    Australia
    weevil, yeah I had thought of that problem. But they all know how to tie up and I wouldn't be tying them by the collars, just grabbing them to lead them to the milk stand, then they are in the head bail.

    thanks very much for the input Karen. You think Boers are difficult to tell apart, try white angoras :scratch: I tag them as soon as they are born because they are all white and all look the same as tiny kids ... and I cant tell who belongs to who!
     
  8. rgbdab

    rgbdab New Member

    252
    Nov 26, 2007
    TEXAS
    I use plastic chain with breakaway connector link. I liked them so much I bought the chain in bulk and make my own. If you might be interested, let me know and I'd be happy to make you some. Depending on chain (plastic) size the usually run about 4.00 each. I have pictures of them on my goats, but it is too big to put on this post apparently, so PM me for a pic or any questions. Denise
     
  9. sweetgoats

    sweetgoats Moderator

    Oct 18, 2007
    Peyton CO.
    I NEVER ;leave them on at all, BUT with that said mine all have horns. It is way to easy for a got with horns to butt another one and get the horn stuck on the collars. I have seen two dead goats because of them getting tangled.
    Even if you do not have horned goats, we have a girl around here that had her pygmy goat just over something and the collar got hung up on something.
     
  10. KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator

    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    I NEVER leave collars on my goats. It's surprising what they can get hung up on even if there's barely anything in the pen. If you have barely anything in the pen and nothing sticking out or horned goats then it would probably be ok. I don't risk it though. I've seen goats easily get caught on branches.... the horns of other goats....fencing. It's just really risky for me, but it would depend on the situation. Hope I don't sound to harsh, it just scares me thinking of leaving collars on our precious goaties.
     
  11. eliya

    eliya New Member

    I use the breakaway collars from Hoeggers for my milkers. I have used nylon collars before with no problems as well, BUT, I have a horror story about 'collars' that are not break away... Early this spring shortly after my does freshened, I needed some collars, but had forgotten to order them (most of them disappear over the summer as they come off so easily...), so I tied twine around some of the more stubborn ones. BAD, BAD idea. One of those does with a twine collar, was bossing one of the dry yearlings around and somehow got the other goat's leg between her collar and her neck. Then of course she panicked and they twisted around and around. By the time I got there the yearling's rear hoof was up by her hip and completely twisted around. The bone was severed right above the hock. HORRIBLE! Thankfully the bone didn't go through her skin. We were able to save her and her leg, but it will never be the same. Anyway, I will NEVER leave twine on a goat as a collar. I do still grab collarless goats with twine, but it comes off before they go back with the others.
     
  12. SDK

    SDK New Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Yucaipa ca
    if they are dumb goats.. i get the breakaway plastic collars.. but like bird.shes gets a normal collar.. i've never had a n issue with keeping collars on.. and for me if i have an emergency, everyones collared and ready to go.. i could walk like 4 at a time and get out fast
     
  13. Amos

    Amos New Member

    Oct 2, 2008
    Minnesota
    I keep collars on for that very reason SDK, and so it is easier to handle them all everyday. We have never had any problems with collars.. yet.
     
  14. SDK

    SDK New Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Yucaipa ca
    the plastic link collars are cheap and safe.. and thankfully everyone but AURORA the demon are polite
     
  15. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    I have collars on every one of my goats (ok - not all as my new batch that I am ordering will be the ones for all the new goats). But I put them on loose so that they can slide their head out if they need. They are not break aways. I have had collars on them ever since I got into goats and (knock on wood) have never had an issue due to a collar. Some even have charms on their colars with their name and the address - like the dog name tags. I am getting a bunch made up with the ranch name and the phone number incase one makes an escape artist move!

    I do have the plastic chain ones for the sheep - but haven't put them on yet. Project for this next week - catch WILD sheep and put colors on - :shocked: Anyway - I bought the chain at Lowes / Home Depot for like 50 cents a foot!
     
  16. SDK

    SDK New Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Yucaipa ca
    yea lowes and home depot sell the chain cheap
     
  17. capriola-nd

    capriola-nd New Member

    Jul 6, 2008
    Northwest Oregon
    All of our goats wear collars all the time. Never had problems. . . . yet. Let's hope there are none.

    We buy the cheap ones from the dollar store and I am sure they would break with enough pressure.

    Like SDK and Amos. I like having collars in case of an emergency. I can lead them easier and catch them easier (if they are not so tame).
     
  18. FunnyRiverFarm

    FunnyRiverFarm New Member

    Sep 13, 2008
    Hudson, MI
    I don't leave collars on mainly because my goaties chew on them. None of mine run from me when I try to catch them so that's not an issue. I only put collars on them when I'm doing something with them outside of their pen. I use the kind with the plastic clasp things so they are super quick to put on when I need to.
     
  19. nancy d

    nancy d Moderator

    Oct 5, 2007
    near Seattle
    Girl you crack me up!

    I dont leave collars on the Boers either. Most of them are tame enough that if I need to I can put a collar on em to bring out. They all have horns except for the Nubian.
    They dont even get collars when transporting. Shove them in take collars off.

    I would think having a hornless herd with break away collars would be fine.
     
  20. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    I have collars on 24/7 only had one mishap in 12 years and that was with them being tied out.


    When I had a horned goat in there with them I made sure their collars were sized big enough to slip off their necks if need be.