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Is it too late for Penn G??

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#1 ·
First - just so thankful for this safe place to come and ask questions and share info, without being scolded or put down etc. there's a lotta goat love flowing through these pages -- and a good dose of human love too❤

I have a doe that kidded last March 2017
She is 4 years old, 4th freshening, Nigerian.
She had a long pre-hard labor ( about 12 hours)

Hard Labor started and she was tired already. She was making no progress in pushing - and pushes weren't all that forceful either. No bubble had appeared at all. No water broken.
After 45 min I gloved, sanitized, lubed up and went looking.

I found 1 big boy perfect presentation - who came out yowling and standing on his own - with a little pulling...

I went back in and found another buck perfect presentation again - pulled him very easily.
He was weak in the legs and took some work ( and selinium gel after ) to get him going.
Both turned out fine.

The afterbirth came out right after I got the second boy cleaned up-- but hung on for hours with a 1/4" string going into her vulva.

I bumped her several times and felt confident there were no more kids.

I kick myself now - and wish I would have
1. Gone looking inside again anyway - but with the afterbirth hanging - wasn't sure if I should??
2. Gone in with syringe of colloidal silver and emptied it inside.
Well that's all hind sight:(

So.. She acted very sluggish and was always laying on her kids etc. but no fever. I just figured she was sore from my intrusion.

.I had the vet out because I wanted to see about getting some Excede for her since I went in 2 times in a hurry and I wasn't all that careful in my panicked condition!:(

The vet said Biomycin was best and so I gave that instead.

Since then she still has some discharge between heats. When she goes into heat sometimes it is slighly pinkish. I have seen clear - and white also but just on the vulva part.
Still no fever - not acting off since she's healed up.

I have been treating her herbally - and she'll get dry - then discharge starts again ( mid cycle).
Just recently I got some great advice from Kat at Fir Meadow... I usually depend on her products.

But she advised uterine boluses and using a weak kid syringe to tube some Herbiotic extract into the uterus.

But I don't feel comfortable doing that - I'm afraid I'd damage her uterine wall- bladder - who knows??!

Also, though I love using herbal's only - the cost of that treatment would cost more than I have to spare right now!

So.... Is it too late to use the brand new cheap Penn G that I found at TSC for under 10.00?
I had read on some other posts on here - that that was the drug of choice for uterine infections.

I also saw a post where someone said that uterine infection doesn't have to have a fever also!

I'm assuming that is what it is - even though there is no temp - milk is fine- and the discharge doesn't smell all that bad--- hahaha well that comes from someone that enjoys the smell of cudding because it means everything is working!!:)

Discharge smells like Comet cleanser???

I want to get her ready for November breeding! Thank you for your help!:)
 
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What a sad ending! Yes what irony after all she endured! That must have been devastating!! I can’t imagjne the grief and loss:(.

It amazes me that the body still send hormones out for a heat when there is already something in the uterus.

Thank You for the success story - aside from the human craziness that cut her life short:(
 
#85 ·
Just a little update - Ginnie is back to “normal”! Rump still
A little more slanted - but otherwise - we’ll
Have another X-ray in a couple months...
 

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@Annieday a sincere and heartfelt thank you for sharing this thread. I learned so much.

@lottsagoats1 Thank you also for your sharing. I knew about your tragedy, of course, but not that individual story. I would not have believed your doe could do that.

Thanks to both of you, I am a better goat owner.
 
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Hey! I just stopped by with an update and saw your sweet message Mariarose- thank You- it has been very comforting to know I’m not alone. :)

Ginnie is so normal it’s amazing! Except there is that bit of discharge now and then:( the vet says her body will continue to try to clean up.

But she is getting nice and round again- no pain- no temp. I am thankful for that every day!! I just realized she’s almost 7! Time flies!!
 
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