1/28 CD/T usages why or why not

I do vaccinate for CD-T....I have only had goats for 2 years but I haven't had any problems with it since I have been vaccinating. I vaccinate at a month old and then again at 2 months. All adults coming onto my property are vaccinated for it also. I check with the previous owners to see when the last vaccine was given or if they give that vaccine.

 

I do use CD/T..
The reason we use it, they are out in the pasture and you never know when thy might get into something that is a little"rich".
The reason I believe it should be done. If they were to lets say for some reason just (Eat like we do at lets say Thanksgiving), then if they have NOT had the shot, they they could get really sick from it and it could kill them before you realize something is wrong. If you do the shot it will at least help to balance things out in their rumen ,and you will have a better chance of saving them.
As for the babies.
Lets say that a baby get locked away for the mom for a while and has not eaten in a long time, when the baby gets to mom, they will eat and eat. They really do not know when to stop, so they will feel like we do at Thanksgiving. The problem is they do not know what to do for the pain and all, and they could die for "over eaters". That is what it is for. Over eaters.

I think they need to come out with a shot for us for over eaters. :greengrin:

Plus that tetanus. Goats get into everything as we all know

 

We do not vaccinate at all. I can see the use of one vaccination when they are babies, but personally I do not feel or see the need to vaccinate on a regular schedule of a couple times a year. It seems unnecessary and a goat should have developed immunity to the disease after 1 or 2 shots. That is just my 2 cents. When my buck and wether got dehorned I had the vet give them the tetanus antitoxin just in case.

Even though we do not give vaccinations, it does not mean that we don't do anything at all. We give nosodes, which is the homeopathic version of a vaccination. We give nosodes for entero, tetanus, orf(soremouth) and E Coli. To safeguard against entero, we always keep baking soda out free choice, and if we have a goat that goes off feed or acts off, they get a shot of Fortified B Complex along with a dose of thiamin. We also give Milk of Magnesia and olive oil to encourage rumen function during the sick time.

As tetanus prevention, besides giving the nosode, anytime a goat gets cut or scratched, we immediatly clean the wound out with peroxide and put calendula and/or hypericum tincture on the wound. We also give the remedies Ledum(for open wounds and bites), Hypericum(for repair of damaged tissue and prevention of infection) and Arnica for pain.

We have never had a goat come down with tetanus or entero by doing these things.

 

Sara, where do you get your nosodes? Could you PM me about them....

 

Sara.
I do agree with you. We have been doing the CDT just because when we started into goat, that is what they told us we had to do. I would LOVE to stop doing them, but I am just to scared. I figured as soon as I do something will happen.

It is a total personal choice.

(Just a worry thing)

 

Mine get the shots once a year at their vet appointment. They have always been perfectly healthy, have never seen any side effects from the shot (even though I've only had goats for 2 years).

 

I'd like to know where you find your nosodes too, if you don't mind my asking.

 

I do vaccinate with CD/T mainly for the tetnus, just like kids you never know whatyour goat is going to get into. I give my does one shot about six weeks before the kid. Kids get a shot at four weeks and eight weeks. And then everyone gets yearly booster right before fair time. This is just the recommended dosage that i have heard from vets. so this is what i use.
this site has a good breakdown of the vaccine
http://www.jefferslivestock.com/ssc/pro ... f_id=16741
you can also read more bu clicking on the line that says view label information.
beth

 

I vaccinate for CD/T when they are 3 weeks old, 3 months old, and yearly. Tetnus wouldn't be a huge problem, but extertoxiemia could be. Our friend lost a buck to that recently. If our goats escape [which has happened many times] I want them to be safe from that.

 

OK, Let me ask this?

IS there a certain brand that you like better then others.

Like Bar Vac, or the Colorado Serum. And Why or does it matter?

 

When I use the Bar Vac, I get that lump all the time no matter how much rubbing I do. I have a health check and the vet was a little worried about it. I told him it was the CDT injection. He opened it and he agreed with me.
We had a discussion about the different ones. I told him what I have found out about them, and he said he would start paying more attention to it.
Well at a clinic he put on, he told the people about what I had told him and then there is asked everyone to raise their hands if they use Bar Vat, then Colorado Serum. He then asked the question if they have lumps. About 95% of the people the use the Bar Vac all had the lumps, and only about 5% with the Colorado Serum.
We talked about it and he said he was surprised that no one ever brought it up to him before I did.

 

I don't vaccinate, I have found that the kids that I have that were born on our farm (without vaccines) were healthier than my vaccinated goats. They had more of a resistance to sickness. I will vaccinate if someone wants their kid to be vaccinated. I havent had any pf my goats get a cut since I have been raising them *knock on wood*. We have used very safe fencing and have comed their pasture for anything that could hurt them.

 

I was using Bar-Vac and switched to Colorado Serum because of the lumps. Those lumps never go away on their own it seems....I have to vaccine lumps now that I need to lance. I know they are vaccine lumps because I note the injection site when I give injections. I ordered my colorado serum vaccine from Jeffers and it was inexpensive.