Ok. As I've mentioned before ... I had a really tough year in 2008 with my animals. I lost alot of goats, and I want to do everything I can to prevent any issues for this year. I've been talking to some close friends of mine online about these issues, and they've helped me deal with my grief and have given recommendations to me. But now I'm ready to tell my experiences to everyone and ask for your personal opinions as well. I just want to take into consideration what everyone has to say and try to figure out exactly what went wrong, and how to prevent it from happening again ! So ... here's how things happened .... Spring 2008 - everything was going great. I had increased my herd by buying goats here and there, and my does had babies, and long story short ... I was up to 13 goats (I think I counted that right). I sold a few of them, and by the end of the summer had LOST 5 kids (Lily, Cotton Candy, Black Jack, Cookie & Bambi) (PLUS a few saanen kids that I had rescued) and had the vet out to see what the world was going on ! He did a necropsy (sp?) on Bambi and plus ran a fecal on Cookie (who was still alive the day here was here ... she died later that night) and he confirmed that they had Coccidiosis. So his recommendation was Corrid. Which I did use to treat the entire herd then. Things were ok then for a short while. Then the beginning of winter I lost Presto (a kid I purchased from Stacey that was registered and I had high hopes for). He had NO sings or symptons of any illness that I seen prior to his death. Unless I just completely MISSED them. But I didn't see anything wrong with him and then one day I went down and he was dead. The kids that that died during summer when I had the vet out ... they all had symptons with scours, etc. .. I KNEW they were sick. Presto ... no signs. Then not long ago (in December) I lost Goliath (a 2 yr old Pygmy/Nigerian Buck). No Symptons again. However, he has a different story. His door to his pen broke off and it was REALLY cold out (with cold warnings out on the news ... telling everyone to stay in doors, etc.) and although he was inside his pen which was inside the barn ... with his door being off the wind could blow straight in on him. The next morning is when I found him dead. I thought it was due to the very cold temps and his door that broke off. But a friend of mine said that they had a hard time beleiving just cold would kill him ... because of what goats can "live through." He was healthy and hadn't had any problems/issues/symptons prior to his death. His water was froze to, but so was everyone elses until I thawed it out (again ... this is something that is a daily thing for me in winter of course). So I don't think he got dehydrated, because then I would've had issues with all of them who's water froze. And I didn't. Just him. So since Goliath died ... I haven't had any issues with any of my other goats. That put me down to 5 goats ... Daisy, Oreo, Nanny, Tanzy and Moby. I haven't had any issues with anyone since. But I'm concerned for future issues. My kidding season will be starting really soon ... in march. And I don't want to loose anyone for sure ! So I want to do what I can to prevent any problems/issues. I just am unsure what has happened here. I mean, I KNOW I had cocci here ... well, HAVE cocci ... since it's ALWAYS in your soil. But what about Presto and Goliath ? What was the deal with them ? A friend of mine mentioned "silent pnuemonia" ... could it be ? Or is it just the cocci. But if it WAS the cocci ... why did Presto and Goliath die with NO symptons ?? I'm confused and concerned. I don't want to loose ANY MORE goats ! And I want my kids to be safe and healthy to. I ordered some Pastuerella (pnuemonia) vaccine. I was planning on vaccinated everyone with that just for precaution. I've never used it before, and don't know much at all about it ... just that a good goat friend recommended it to me ... JUST IN CASE I have been dealing with silent pnuemonia. But I also want to prevent a cocci outbreak from happening again, so I would like to take preventative measures for that as well. Another friend of mine recommended that I purchase and treat with Di-Mothex to prevent a cocci outbreak from occuring. When I looked on jeffers livestock, the Di-Mothex said it is for numerous things including cocci treatment ... but ALSO treatment for bacterial pnuemonia. I asked her if the di-mothex would contradict the pastuerella (pneumonia) vaccine .. or if I'd have any issues giving BOTH ... and she wasnt' sure. So my questions are to you ... 1.Does anyone have any additional input on what I may have dealt with here ? 2.Has anyone ever given the Pastuerella (pneumonia) vaccine for preventative measure ? 3.Has anyone used the Di-Mothex ? 4.Does anyone know if I can use the Pastuerella vaccine and the Di-Mothex at the same time ? 5.Any other ideas or suggestions ?