3 Dappled Boer Does

Discussion in 'Goat Conformation' started by CottonwoodBoerGoats, Jun 7, 2020.

  1. CottonwoodBoerGoats

    CottonwoodBoerGoats Member

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    Jun 7, 2020
    PNW
    This would be my very first dappled goat. I am only planning on buying one. There is no minimum bid on any of them. Doe #3 has been exposed to another dappled buck. They are all registered with the ABGA. I would like a few different opinions on witch doe is the best. Thanks! 1AB3C0BE-741D-4551-8AB9-DA47DF3F182F.jpeg ED38DFB9-1E2B-4518-9A10-F58DC7813299.jpeg 13E45227-C6D2-4254-97FC-932358D3B625.jpeg 1AB3C0BE-741D-4551-8AB9-DA47DF3F182F.jpeg ED38DFB9-1E2B-4518-9A10-F58DC7813299.jpeg 13E45227-C6D2-4254-97FC-932358D3B625.jpeg
     
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  2. CountyLineAcres

    CountyLineAcres Well-Known Member

    Jan 22, 2014
    Mineral Ridge, Ohio
    It’s hard to say. They’re all nice. You would need other angles and videos along with more information such as teat structure, bite, pigment, etc.

    The first two look like twins conformationally which makes sense since they are full-sisters.
     
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  3. CottonwoodBoerGoats

    CottonwoodBoerGoats Member

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    Jun 7, 2020
    PNW
    Thank you!
     
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  4. Tanya

    Tanya Well-Known Member

    I like doe number 3
     
  5. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    I agree, you have to see more angles on them and ask for teat structure, bite and pigment.

    Just don't know front width and rear.
     
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  6. CottonwoodBoerGoats

    CottonwoodBoerGoats Member

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    Jun 7, 2020
    PNW
    I would put more pictures but I don’t think that I’m supposed to. But here’s the link to the auction the girls are lot 13, 14, and 16 for anyone is interested. https://wlivestock.com/auction/8782
     
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  7. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    You can upload more pics here.
    It only allows you to post so many on one post, so just write another post to add more. ;)

    I can't find those goats on the link you provided.
     
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  8. Jessica84

    Jessica84 Well-Known Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    California
    Since your not going to be seeing them in person I would ask for videos. Pictures can be deceiving and a video USUALLY (not always) gives a little better idea of what the animal is. But going off the picture of each doe I myself like 3,1,then 2.
     
  9. Jessica84

    Jessica84 Well-Known Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    California
    Also IMO “exposed” means a whole lot of nothing to me. I have purchased, and paid extra, for “exposed” and they never had a kid. So on anything I like that is exposed, I put that word out of my mind and I Will pay what I think is fair for just that animal. It is less frustrating that way. If it was confirmed bred or guaranteed bred that would be a whole other story
     
  10. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Exposed:
    She was bred.
    She was exposed to a buck.
    It is a safe way to say, she may be bred or not.

    If you say she goes as bred, the seller must abide by that and may come back on you, if she aborts.
    They will ask for her to be bred back.

    If something happens to make her abort, disease, giving meds to getting hit hard. We as a seller can not predict what may happen after she leaves our place, so it makes us liable for giving the buyer what we sold them. If we say she is bred.

    Being exposed does not say you will receive a kid born on he ground.
    It means it may or may not happen.
    So we must word the sales so we are not stuck. ;)
     
  11. Jessica84

    Jessica84 Well-Known Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    California
    Yes exposed pretty much means that she was thrown in with a buck. She may have bred, she may not have even been Cycling.
    But unless something is stated that a breeder is guaranteeing live kids then no, confirmed bred doesn’t mean that the breeder owes anything if something happens while the new owner has the animal. All confined bred means is that blood was drawn and confirmed that way or by a vet ultrasounding.
     
  12. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    I pulled up the does you were looking at. I pulled the # s up.on ABGA. THe first two are on ABGA. The third doe is not. I noticed it said pending
    The doe is a year old, wheres the papers? So you cant verify if she is 100% boer or less percentage. I would call the person on her listing and find out more about this before i would bid on her.
     
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  13. CountyLineAcres

    CountyLineAcres Well-Known Member

    Jan 22, 2014
    Mineral Ridge, Ohio
    Hmm... while I like the first two, their teat structures aren’t shared. They just say “show correct” which could mean any teat structure that is permissible on the ABGA chart. At least the third is said to be 1+1.
     
  14. R.Williamson

    R.Williamson Active Member

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    Mar 21, 2019
    South Carolina
    Depending on Teat structure I actually like number 2 the best. The first one is ok but there is something I dislike about her hind end. I cannot quite place my finger on it. SHe is nice and thick but not my type. Number 3 is my second choice. The reason I like number 2 best is because while she is a nice thick girl she still looks very feminine. I will say I am not a fan of her mouth though.
     
  15. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    Today is the bidding day. Let us know.if you buy one!
     
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  16. R.Williamson

    R.Williamson Active Member

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    Mar 21, 2019
    South Carolina
  17. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California