Well I have a doe named chritmas and she wasent due till the 30th. I heard my dog barking and I went out there and see her cleaning a baby, I run down there and the little girl she was cleaning unfortunatly was dead... :sigh: I dont think she ever breathed as she was limp and her pink mouth was blue. I hate it when this happens. So I was sittng there thinking she was done, looked at her behind to see if afterbirth was coming out and there was a HEAD sticking out lol. So I grabbed it and helped her push him....yes him out. He is a solid solid boy, crissys udder is nice enough to keep him a buck so I am contimplating it. Anywyas, here are some pictures.