Abscess

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by AlaskaBoers, Oct 2, 2010.

  1. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    Hey
    haven't posted much, lots going on!

    anyway, I noticed one of my fullbloods has a abscess on her cheek,on the lower half of the mandible. it's hard (doesn't 'float') and about 1" across.

    the whole CL thing.. wow, what should I do? I've separated her. she's acting fine, she was in heat last week, still being a brat, eating fine and i've seen her drink.

    I can upload a pic if needed.
     
  2. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    well has she been tested for CL before?

    can you lance it and get the gunk and sent it for testing?
     

  3. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    She's been tested for CL , neg (need the papers though)

    When can I lance it? It is still firmly attached to the goat.
     
  4. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    you can lance whenever --some wait till its coming to a head.
     
  5. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    thanks
    I really doubt it is CL, but I'm not risking it.

    So after I draw out the 'stuff' (whatever it will look like) I keep it in the syringe (or put into red top tube?) and send it in to WADDL?
     
  6. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    put it in the tube (just take the top off and put it in)
     
  7. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    ok thanks!
    . and I send it to WADDL for the regular CL test?
    Too many choices on there, which test?
     
  8. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    see if there is a culture test -- or just call them to ask. I am not really positive on that sorry :(
     
  9. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Lumps of any kind are scary..... :hug:

    Testing it...is a good idea to clear your mind... one way or another.....

    Is the abscess inside her mouth... maybe a tooth abscess?

    If the lump is hard....most likely....you may not be able to ...syringe it out......

    Sorry one of your goats is having this issue...... :hug:
     
  10. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    thanks
    I put my finger inside the mouth, but I couldn't get far enough back there, i need another person to stand next to her and hold her head.
    It's in the location where a salivary cyst would be.
     
  11. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    your welcome.... :hug:

    It may just be a abscessed salivary cyst?......but not positive....

    I know... they don't like their mouths messed with....be careful of those teeth.... :shocked: :hug:
     
  12. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    When you tap it - use an 18 guage and see if you can get anything. No matter what - even if liquid - send it in!!! The biggest difference between CL and an abcess is that an abcess smells - CL has no scent to it. BUT CL does start as a fluid - so until the tests come back - treat as if CL.

    Good luck.
     
  13. cmjust0

    cmjust0 New Member

    237
    Oct 8, 2009
    I've seen these before.. If it's on her cheek, right where her molars meet, chances are good that she just bit her cheek. Either that, or it's a salivary cyst as someone else mentioned. Personally, I think the cheek-biting scenario happens a lot more frequently than salivary cysts, though..

    The good news is that isn't a lymph node site, which means you could more or less make a *clinical* diagnosis ruling it out as being a CL abscess. You could have it checked, but personally, I'd just keep an eye on it and wait for it to disappear.. My experience has been that they swell to that size quickly and persist for an indeterminate period of time until POOF! -- they're just gone one day. I suspect they pop to the inside of the mouth. Gross to think about but...well, whatcha gonna do.

    :)
     
  14. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    i havent done anything yet.
    I felt back there again, a little sore to the touch so i though she might have bitten it or got a splinter. heck it could even be a bite.
    unless something major happens i will just watch it
     
  15. citylights

    citylights Member

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    Jul 3, 2009
    Southern California
    I had an abcess in a ryoung doe -- right back by her molars (I've tested and closed my herd), so I didn't htink it was CL. It was hard and painful when I touched it. It burst w/in 5 days --clear/watery/pus and blood

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  16. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    k. I lanced it yesterday

    it was clear and tinged with blood, much like denises (though my goats' was larger)
    I got 12 cc of fluid and disposed of it, dapped some alcohol on the puncture and she's good to go

    though this morning it looks like BOTTLE JAW?!? it's all swelled up and looked terrible. she's eating and drinking fine, i'm going to start her on penG for 5 days and ivomec... would some red cell help too, kinda lost on this one
     
  17. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    im not doing anything with it. it's just the inside of the cyst that ruptured under the skin
     
  18. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    Are her eye lids pale at all? That would be the indication for red cell as it is for anemia ;-)
     
  19. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    nope. nice and dark lids. :)
    she was dewormed approx 2 months ago with Ivomec
     
  20. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    I personally wouldn't give the red cell than, she sounds like she is not anemic.