Air Cashmere

Discussion in 'Photogenic' started by ArcticGoats, Jul 10, 2008.

  1. ArcticGoats

    ArcticGoats New Member

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    Jun 9, 2008
    Fairbanks, Alaska
    Ok - these aren't the greatest photos - the little guys are really skittish!!

    First - we have to get them here (i always have to do things the hard way!)
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    taking it all in
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    almost home
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    ok - maxed out the post - see next topic!
     
  2. Sweet Gum Minis

    Sweet Gum Minis New Member

    Oct 6, 2007
    Easley, SC
    Oh yeah, surely very stressed out. Cool photos though. You take for granted the journey some go through. I've shipped kids out before but never thought about what all was involved.
     

  3. sweetgoats

    sweetgoats Moderator

    Oct 18, 2007
    Peyton CO.
    Those are cool. That one does not look stressed out at all. Looks more like "Hello, what do you want"?
    I bet it is great to have them home.
     
  4. ArcticGoats

    ArcticGoats New Member

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    Jun 9, 2008
    Fairbanks, Alaska
    I obviously don't know much about goats - but I thought they handled the journey quite well. They were a bit on the dehydrated side by the time we got home - but travel time was a total of 13 hours door to door. None of them 'freaked' out - and they would just lie in the crate most of the time (unless we were actually picking it up). It seemed the crates bothered them less than the new pasture (pretty scary), but by morning they had found the hay and water and were using the barn.

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    Now, 3 days at home and they are playing on a log pile and sniffing my fingers. Thanks for the tip re: raisins, Lori - I'll try it tonight. I've been going out and sitting/talking to them each evening and this morning 2 of them sniffed my fingers! So, they're coming along!

    BTW - Since they came in on the wind - we've named them after winds - Chinook, Sirocco, Williwaw and Zephyr.
     
  5. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    that's neat! it's good you got them up here safe and sound. How much did you pay to ship one goat? i'm planning on shipping, but can't decide if it would be cheaper for them to fly with me, when we go to WI. Or ship them up seperatley. thanks, and good luck with your goats.
     
  6. ArcticGoats

    ArcticGoats New Member

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    Jun 9, 2008
    Fairbanks, Alaska
    I want to put together a little deal re: shipping with photos and details like phone numbers, but in a nutshell we paid $300 to ship. But the price is dependent on weight (the container plus the animal, distance and dimensions of shipping container. But, I am no airline expert - the following is what we experienced:

    AkAir will not let you ship goats (or any livestock as I understand it) as a pet - ie the $150 standard addition to check a kennel with your luggage. I don't know about other airlines. The goats have to go cargo, have a state of Alaska import permit number, meet the space guidelines - be able to stand, lie down etc, have a NON slip surface (not the plastic in the bottom of a kennel), have food and water bowls and a vet check (you may need other certifications depending on the age of your goat - everything is simpler if its under 6 months old). They only allowed one per container (you could do 2 but they had to have a partition seperating them and still meet the space requirements). Cargo is basically 22 cents a pound but somehow they figure in the distance and the size too. The cargo goes as Animal Express and must have reservations on specific flights (they only allow so many animals per flight) and some flights have very limited room (ie we checked into flying out of Eugene and only 2 were allowed so we didn't want them split up so we went out of Portland).

    So, based on all the above - your charges could be quite different depending on distance and size...the best thing to do is talk with the airline you will be using - call the cargo department, and it was helpful to actually call the cargo people where we were shipping out of. But, we often got different answers depending who we talked to - they gave us a ballpark figure but the actual charges weren't figured until we checked them in and they were officially weighed. AkAir will let you ship COD if you want.

    Anyway - the AkAir people were great - they loved the goats! We flew the same flight as them - so they were waiting for us at the cargo dock by the time we got off the plane and over to it, and a phone message was waiting for us at home -so they were on the ball and making sure our goats were going to be taken care of. We tried to book the easiest/fastest flights - the choice was portland/seattle/fairbanks or portland/anchorage/fairbanks and we chose to avoid seattle as we've had a lot of delays there recently. Luckily, all the flights went smoothly and here we are - goat farmers at last!
     
  7. sweetgoats

    sweetgoats Moderator

    Oct 18, 2007
    Peyton CO.
    That is wonderful news. Congratulations on such a smooth transition.

    It's because they can feel the love :love:
     
  8. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    thanks , that gave me lots of info. one question though, the shipping was the 22 cents per lb (in your situtation) did you have to pay the $150 also? thanks again! -maybe next spring you'd like to ship up another goat with me out of portland and split the shipping cost?
     
  9. ArcticGoats

    ArcticGoats New Member

    170
    Jun 9, 2008
    Fairbanks, Alaska
    AlaskaBoers -

    No, the $150 was not added - but I did get the cost wrong - the 22 cents per pound was just the fuel surcharge. I'll find the info and get back with you - but since it probably is a different rate depending on where you start and what your destination is - I recommend that you talk with the cargo people directly, they will give you a much better idea of cost - we found their estimate to be quite accurate (as long as you can give them accurate starting info like how much your shipping container weighs, how much your goat weighs and the precise flights you want them to go on etc).

    Now, as for splitting the charges - since its by the pound, 1 goat will cost X amount, 2 goats will cost twice that - so there is no real advantage for doing that, that I know of (unless you want to split a goat! But I like mine whole - LOL!!)
     
  10. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    ooh. okay, now i think i get it. good point, i like mine whole also. okay i'll call the cargo people. thanks again!