All Guard 4 in 1 Bolus

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by CountyLineAcres, Jun 3, 2020.

  1. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    Please keep us updated!! :neat:
     
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  2. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    The boluses arrived from S&N Livestock. They are in a plastic bag with no label or any documentation. I actually went to find a photo or video to confirm they are the correct item!

    Inside is two hard plugs.
    The bolus size is much larger than your 4 gram copper boluses.

    Here are a few photos of them, and also a video I found of administration.


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  3. CountyLineAcres

    CountyLineAcres Well-Known Member

    Jan 22, 2014
    Mineral Ridge, Ohio
    Oh wow! Finally! Do you have a copper bolus to put beside for comparison?
     
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  4. AndersonRanch

    AndersonRanch Well-Known Member

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    Oct 17, 2020
    California
    Those look like the size bolus that I use for the adults copper. If so you want a small balling gun. It’s the blue one from tractor supply ;)
    I guess having two of the hard plugs is good that way if someone is nervous about giving it you could break them open and put half in another bolus and give a smaller dose.
    Let us know if you see any difference with yours.
     
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  5. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    That's an Ultra Cruz 2gram and 4 gram then the All Guard 4 in 1
     
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  6. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    @AndersonRanch - still think that's the right size? I didn't know they would be so large so I definitely need to get the balling gun. Did you see the cool squeeze one in that video? Must be a euro thing!

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  7. AndersonRanch

    AndersonRanch Well-Known Member

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    Oct 17, 2020
    California
    Hmmm it looks wider on the tip and longer. Longer won’t hurt but if the base is wider I’m not sure if it will. This is what I have I used a quarter to compare since I can’t find my 2 and 4 grams right now
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    If you can get it from tractor supply or a feed store I would just take it with you and try it out.
    Or if you are going to order I would just go with one of these. Measure the end and get one that is a little larger. I just got the link to the large because you can see the little spring things they have in it easier

    https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=30E07F74-7B6A-11D5-A192-00B0D0204AE5
    Sally 2 face killed my cheap tractor supply one so I picked one of these up at the feed store. The bolus does not totally fit into that tip perfectly BUT with those little metal things in there it holds a smaller bolus anyways. I am really sold on this because they can’t bite down and break it (thanks sally lol) or make sharp edges so it’s very kind to the back of the throat. But it’s more then $1-2.
    Yes I am loving the balling gun in that video! Why does it seem all the cool stuff is in other countries :/
     
  8. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    Great idea with the quarter. They are definitely longer but I think they are the same width. I think it's do-able.

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  9. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    Would a plastic balling gun for cattle work? They usually run a little larger
     
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  10. AndersonRanch

    AndersonRanch Well-Known Member

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    Oct 17, 2020
    California
    Yes Moers you are correct and I should have been more specific in my reply then just the blue balling gun. Sometimes I just assume others know what I’m talking about lol but the blue, size small cattle balling gun should be perfect for those boluses :)
     
  11. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    Okay we have our first victim! I mean... beneficiary.

    Sandy is a 8 year old doe and definitely the most susceptible to selenium deficiency in my herd. That tail flops over and the pasterns get way down low. For reference, she's last had a Multimin 90 injection in February 2020 and sporadic access to the loose minerals this Autumn/winter. She is bred, due for March. I Irimmed her hooves 12/31/20

    Today she received the All Guard Ewe Bolus discussed in this thread as well as 8 grams of copper bolus. All given in fig newtons type cookies.

    Fingers crossed for great results!! You can see just how low those pasterns are.

    I haven't quite decided if I'll use the All Guard or the MultiMin for the other 7 preggo does.

    Also just for a chuckle, we purchased Sandy in 2013 and the man swore up and down she was Fullblood Boer (not registered). He went on and on about having shipped in a buck she was sired by from the first ennobled Fullblood solid black lines in Texas. Of course he had sold the entire herd except for two bottle kids by then. While I believe him on the black lineage parts, she throws it every year. The dang doe puts silly partially upright horn sets and often "eye stripes" all the time. Anyhow, she has been a great productive animal for us and fits with our goals.
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  12. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    Thank you for doing this. I can’t wait to see the results!
     
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  13. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    Cant wait to see her in 2 weeks. This is going to be great. Neat Idea Salty!:clever:
     
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  14. Goats Rock

    Goats Rock Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    NE Ohio
    Question, a sideways tail is selenium deficiency? I was just asked that and since you mentioned it here- I haven't had that, but every other sign!
     
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  15. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    Hmm. Mine get droopy tails which sometimes go to the side. It's any crook, really.
     
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  16. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    Agreed with NDO, it's typically what I would call a "crook" mid way up the tail. In Sandy it flops to the side, but I would say more typically crook toward behind the goat. The tails also tend to flop when ligaments loosen for birth. Or some goats even have a disformity "wry tail", a twist in the formation.
     
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  17. CountyLineAcres

    CountyLineAcres Well-Known Member

    Jan 22, 2014
    Mineral Ridge, Ohio
    Thank you for updating! I got our boluses in the mail recently, too, but we haven’t gotten a new bolus gun to test it out yet. Hoping to start administering them ASAP.

    Can’t wait to see how your doe does!
     
  18. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    Yes I haven't gotten around to getting the balling gun yet either. I opened the yellow capsule, took out the two solid plugs inside and hid them each in a Fig Newtons sliced open then smooshed back together.
     
  19. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    Do you have plans to use them on pregnant does? I have had a selenium deficiency kidding season experience years ago and that is something I never wish to repeat. I have to decide what I'll give for selenium the next 2-3 months pre-kidding.
     
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  20. CountyLineAcres

    CountyLineAcres Well-Known Member

    Jan 22, 2014
    Mineral Ridge, Ohio
    That sounds sooo much easier than bolusing. Might have to give that a shot instead!

    I think we probably will with some. Our does don’t start kidding until March, so we will start administering soon. Since we just got a small amount of them to test, we will probably start with the bucks and does that need more of a boost.
     
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