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Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by CountyLineAcres, Jun 3, 2020.
Please keep us updated!!
The boluses arrived from S&N Livestock. They are in a plastic bag with no label or any documentation. I actually went to find a photo or video to confirm they are the correct item!
Inside is two hard plugs.
The bolus size is much larger than your 4 gram copper boluses.
Here are a few photos of them, and also a video I found of administration.
Oh wow! Finally! Do you have a copper bolus to put beside for comparison?
Those look like the size bolus that I use for the adults copper. If so you want a small balling gun. It’s the blue one from tractor supply
I guess having two of the hard plugs is good that way if someone is nervous about giving it you could break them open and put half in another bolus and give a smaller dose.
Let us know if you see any difference with yours.
That's an Ultra Cruz 2gram and 4 gram then the All Guard 4 in 1
@AndersonRanch - still think that's the right size? I didn't know they would be so large so I definitely need to get the balling gun. Did you see the cool squeeze one in that video? Must be a euro thing!
Hmmm it looks wider on the tip and longer. Longer won’t hurt but if the base is wider I’m not sure if it will. This is what I have I used a quarter to compare since I can’t find my 2 and 4 grams right now
If you can get it from tractor supply or a feed store I would just take it with you and try it out.
Or if you are going to order I would just go with one of these. Measure the end and get one that is a little larger. I just got the link to the large because you can see the little spring things they have in it easier
Sally 2 face killed my cheap tractor supply one so I picked one of these up at the feed store. The bolus does not totally fit into that tip perfectly BUT with those little metal things in there it holds a smaller bolus anyways. I am really sold on this because they can’t bite down and break it (thanks sally lol) or make sharp edges so it’s very kind to the back of the throat. But it’s more then $1-2.
Yes I am loving the balling gun in that video! Why does it seem all the cool stuff is in other countries :/
Great idea with the quarter. They are definitely longer but I think they are the same width. I think it's do-able.
Would a plastic balling gun for cattle work? They usually run a little larger
Yes Moers you are correct and I should have been more specific in my reply then just the blue balling gun. Sometimes I just assume others know what I’m talking about lol but the blue, size small cattle balling gun should be perfect for those boluses
Okay we have our first victim! I mean... beneficiary.
Sandy is a 8 year old doe and definitely the most susceptible to selenium deficiency in my herd. That tail flops over and the pasterns get way down low. For reference, she's last had a Multimin 90 injection in February 2020 and sporadic access to the loose minerals this Autumn/winter. She is bred, due for March. I Irimmed her hooves 12/31/20
Today she received the All Guard Ewe Bolus discussed in this thread as well as 8 grams of copper bolus. All given in fig newtons type cookies.
Fingers crossed for great results!! You can see just how low those pasterns are.
I haven't quite decided if I'll use the All Guard or the MultiMin for the other 7 preggo does.
Also just for a chuckle, we purchased Sandy in 2013 and the man swore up and down she was Fullblood Boer (not registered). He went on and on about having shipped in a buck she was sired by from the first ennobled Fullblood solid black lines in Texas. Of course he had sold the entire herd except for two bottle kids by then. While I believe him on the black lineage parts, she throws it every year. The dang doe puts silly partially upright horn sets and often "eye stripes" all the time. Anyhow, she has been a great productive animal for us and fits with our goals.
Thank you for doing this. I can’t wait to see the results!
Cant wait to see her in 2 weeks. This is going to be great. Neat Idea Salty!
Question, a sideways tail is selenium deficiency? I was just asked that and since you mentioned it here- I haven't had that, but every other sign!
Hmm. Mine get droopy tails which sometimes go to the side. It's any crook, really.
Agreed with NDO, it's typically what I would call a "crook" mid way up the tail. In Sandy it flops to the side, but I would say more typically crook toward behind the goat. The tails also tend to flop when ligaments loosen for birth. Or some goats even have a disformity "wry tail", a twist in the formation.
Thank you for updating! I got our boluses in the mail recently, too, but we haven’t gotten a new bolus gun to test it out yet. Hoping to start administering them ASAP.
Can’t wait to see how your doe does!
Yes I haven't gotten around to getting the balling gun yet either. I opened the yellow capsule, took out the two solid plugs inside and hid them each in a Fig Newtons sliced open then smooshed back together.
Do you have plans to use them on pregnant does? I have had a selenium deficiency kidding season experience years ago and that is something I never wish to repeat. I have to decide what I'll give for selenium the next 2-3 months pre-kidding.
That sounds sooo much easier than bolusing. Might have to give that a shot instead!
I think we probably will with some. Our does don’t start kidding until March, so we will start administering soon. Since we just got a small amount of them to test, we will probably start with the bucks and does that need more of a boost.