Okay, I'll give you the order of events here... Bought Penny and Lulla in Nov. Bred in Oct. Due beginning of March. This is all best guess. Could have been earlier...(the breeding, the breeder didn't have exact records). 3 days ago Penny starts acting funny. She is breathing quicker then usual, more vocal towards me, flagging her tail, her belly looks dropped or "caved" just beneath her hips. She has a handful of udder - it's new. She acted normal last two days. Then I get home tonight from a tip down to San Jose. I've been gone all day. I go out to see my babies before bed and Isis is acting up. Isis is the pretty blue eyed doe I brought home from Capriola in OR about 3 weeks ago. She is bred, so it's odd to see her showing signs of heat. She is super vocal - not like her. She is the first to greet me at the gate - definitely not like her. And she is flagging her tail like no other. Penny is acting bucky now. She is doing that deep tone "ruh ruh ruh" noise. Sticking her tong out, sniffing urine then raising her lip and so on. She is also mounting Isis...which looks ridiculous because she is HUGE...I digress. At this point I know either Isis didn't take and is in heat or Penny is getting close.. So, I figure, what the heck. I put Isis and Courageous into a stall together. He tries a few times and she stands for him, but he doesn't make contact. She flags and flags and he grunts and sneezes and mounts. About 10 minutes of this and she has had enough. She stops standing for him and starts getting noisy, butting him, and keeping her distance. I would be happy to have her bred to him if she didn't take when she was bred before I bought her, but he never made contact. I let her go home and opened up the stall so the whethers could go in for the night. Put Isis back, Penny went back to acting bucky... Any theories on what's going on with who?