An Interesting Conundrum

Discussion in 'Show Circuit' started by groovyoldlady, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. groovyoldlady

    groovyoldlady Goat Crazy!

    Jul 21, 2011
    Central Maine
    My daughter just pointed out to me that she learned that a goat's pin bones are in one location and the judge at the most recent fair told her it was elsewhere. So today we took some time to look it up and....they are both right? Or are they both wrong? Is the pin bone under the tail and slightly to each side or is it higher up, closer to the tail head? We're finding anatomy charts that put it (them) in both places!
     
  2. kccjer

    kccjer New Member

    Jan 27, 2012
    NW Kansas
    Sounds to me that it's just a minute difference in position by opinion. How strange....
     

  3. Dani-1995

    Dani-1995 Active Member

    Mar 10, 2011
    Greenville, NC
    You can feel them. Find the hooks and feel back until you feel a small round bone. At least that's the way I was taught
     
  4. groovyoldlady

    groovyoldlady Goat Crazy!

    Jul 21, 2011
    Central Maine
    What are "the hooks"? I'm not familiar with that term...
     
  5. Nubian_Nut

    Nubian_Nut Member

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    Dec 21, 2012
    Northeastern Ohio
    Here are some of my own personal pictures of my goats and I circled the pin bones in red. Hope these help :)
     

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  6. Little-Bits-N-Pieces

    Little-Bits-N-Pieces Active Member

    Apr 7, 2013
    CA
    Some people call the hips "hooks". Hooks are the hips bones.
     
  7. Little-Bits-N-Pieces

    Little-Bits-N-Pieces Active Member

    Apr 7, 2013
    CA
    And the above photos are correct. The pin bones are only in one spot, they are circled correctly above :)
     
  8. Dani-1995

    Dani-1995 Active Member

    Mar 10, 2011
    Greenville, NC
    Yep it's just the hip bone
     
  9. Chadwick

    Chadwick New Member

    Jan 23, 2014
    Volant PA
    So why are dairy breeds so pointy in the top pin bone areas where others don't seem to be?
     
  10. Dani-1995

    Dani-1995 Active Member

    Mar 10, 2011
    Greenville, NC
    They aren't made to produce meat or fat. Muscle is very low on their bodies priorities where as milk production is the highest... meat are opposite and focus primarily on building muscle and reaching market weight fast.
     
  11. groovyoldlady

    groovyoldlady Goat Crazy!

    Jul 21, 2011
    Central Maine
    That's exactly what we had learned, but the judge said the pin bones were ABOVE the tail and we found at least 2 "Goat Body Part" charts that agreed with her.

    I think we'll stay with this interpretation. But I am curious why the judge and some charts refer to the pin bones as being elsewhere...
     
  12. groovyoldlady

    groovyoldlady Goat Crazy!

    Jul 21, 2011
    Central Maine
    Here's is one of many charts we found with the pin bones correctly identified.
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    And here is a chart where the bones are, apparently, misidentified:
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  13. caprine crazy

    caprine crazy Boer Lover 4 Life!

    Jun 12, 2012
    Eminence, IN