This is a spin off of the topic I started a few days ago viewtopic.php?f=12&t=17148 Bootsie always had a round barrel...and has had 6 pregnancies, I can feel her spine, it's not protruding but has decent flesh along it. Angel is herd queen and pretty much eats everything before the others, she's not bred and has a bit too much padding over her spine. Heidi looks bigger than she actually is, she's a short bodied pygmy and has a lot of fluff, she's at the bottom of the pecking order, not bred. Penny and Binkey are both bred, as well as Bailey...You can see why I was questioning the weight gain with Penny...shes just over a year old and almost bigger than Binkey at 5 1/2 years. To "feel" each of them, I'd have to say that Angel is definately fat, Bailey is coming close.