Well sorry no pics but this little doe may surprise me yet. I put her in a kidding stall yesterday, she COULD be due Jan. 6-11 so I figured better safe than sorry, Her udder has gone fropm flat against her belly to a softball size! mind you that I'm used to dealing with "milked udders" and not "dry" ones, so the fact that she's been building one is a great possibility that I could still end up with registerable kids!! MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY!! PICS AT BOTTOM.