Black Oil Sunflower Seeds?

Discussion in 'Goat Management' started by GCKRanch, Jun 12, 2015.

  1. GCKRanch

    GCKRanch New Member

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    May 27, 2014
    Fort Myers, FL
    I've read that Black Oil Sunflower Seeds are great for goats and their coats. I saw that Tractor Supply has bags of bird seed with just BOSS, is that safe to feed to my goats every so often?

    Also, I read about Calf Manna for helping goats gain weight, any opinions on that?
     
  2. Riverside Fainters

    Riverside Fainters Active Member

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    Feb 6, 2013
    I am interested as well. I am picking up the feed my co-op mixed for me and wanted to add boss to it. Is it just the bird seed stuff?
     

  3. CritterCarnival

    CritterCarnival Yes Dear Goat Farm

    Sep 17, 2013
    Western Kentucky
    Yep, boss is just plain black oil sunflower seeds found in the wild bird seed section. Just a little goes a long way, as it's 25% fat!!

    As for Calf Manna, it's good stuff, but I like MannaPro Goat Balancer better. It's specifically for goats, has better copper and selenium numbers and also has ammonium chloride to help prevent urinary calculi in the boys. It is also much more concentrated and you only feed a couple ounces a day instead of the 1/4 to 1/2 POUND recommended for Calf Manna. Which also makes it cheaper to use.
     
  4. louandotis

    louandotis Member

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    Aug 12, 2013
    Metro West, MA
    Can the balancer be used with wethers? I dont see the nutritional info on the Manna Pro site
     
  5. CritterCarnival

    CritterCarnival Yes Dear Goat Farm

    Sep 17, 2013
    Western Kentucky
  6. gonegoaty

    gonegoaty New Member

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    May 15, 2015
    I too am a fan of Goat Balancer. I've mixed BOSS in with their feed in the past also.
     
  7. groovyoldlady

    groovyoldlady Goat Crazy!

    Jul 21, 2011
    Central Maine
    Is the goat balancer ok to feed to does as well? I just saw in another thread that ac might not be good for them. I'm asking because right now I have one little wether (9 weeks old) in with all my does. I'd be happy to buy a different grain for him if it would help prevent urinary calculi...
     
  8. CritterCarnival

    CritterCarnival Yes Dear Goat Farm

    Sep 17, 2013
    Western Kentucky
    Yes, it's for all goats, quoted from Manna Pro:
     
  9. Dayna

    Dayna Well-Known Member

    Aug 16, 2012
    Pahoa Hawaii
    some BOSS is "coated with vitamins and chemicals" for wild birds. I don't buy that kind. Look closely to make sure you're getting just sun flower seeds.
     
  10. lottsagoats1

    lottsagoats1 Well-Known Member

    Apr 12, 2014
    Middle Maine
    Other BOSS (usually from Walmart) is coated with a growth inhibitor that prevents the seeds from germinating. I'm not sure I would want to feed that to my goats either.

    AC will not hurt does. Does get UC also, they just don't usually get blocked up.
     
  11. CritterCarnival

    CritterCarnival Yes Dear Goat Farm

    Sep 17, 2013
    Western Kentucky
  12. christinajh

    christinajh Member

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    Jan 23, 2013
    Utah
    I get my BOSS from a local organic farm, and they are the only affordable organic item I can get! Lol
     
  13. bornagain62511

    bornagain62511 Active Member

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    Mar 3, 2015
    How much BOSS do you feed a Nigerian Dwarf goat per day? I've been feeding about 1/3 cup twice a day, so about 2/3 cup total per day. Is that too much or too little for these 60 pound goats?

    thanks
     
  14. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    That is way too much. They should only be getting about a teaspoon full.
     
  15. bornagain62511

    bornagain62511 Active Member

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    Mar 3, 2015
    Wow! Thanks for letting me know. Could that have caused them harm? I'm just curious and trying to learn, why should they only have about a teaspoon of BOSS, but it's OK to feed them like 1/4 to 1/2 cup per day of a grain ration? Or is that way too much grain for lactating Nigerians?

    It's only been about a week or so that I've been giving the BOSS to them. is BOSS kind of like grain to a goat, in how it affects the goat's digestive system? I know grain isn't really a good thing, especially if they have too much, is BOSS the same in that respect? Or is it different since it's a seed and not a grain technically?

    thanks
     
  16. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    BOSS is super high in fat and can put an oil coating on their intestines so they don't properly absorb nutrients. Totally different from grain.
     
  17. bornagain62511

    bornagain62511 Active Member

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    Mar 3, 2015
    So 1 teaspoon, is that per serving, or a maximum daily total for Nigerian Dwarfs?

    I'm so glad I asked, I had no idea and I thought I could even give them more than what I had been :doh:

    thanks
     
  18. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Personally I don't feed BOSS because i have never seen any benefit from it and it is expensive. You could probably do that per feeding but i bet only once a day is fine.
     
  19. CritterCarnival

    CritterCarnival Yes Dear Goat Farm

    Sep 17, 2013
    Western Kentucky
    It's only about $15 for 40 pounds here and you only feed a small amount. If you need a high fat supplement, it's hard to beat. I add it for my does who are putting their body condition into the milk bucket. Protein makes more milk, but fat helps add back to their body cover.
     
  20. GCKRanch

    GCKRanch New Member

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    May 27, 2014
    Fort Myers, FL
    We've been battling worms, since we live in South Florida and they are a constant problem. Our girls have suddenly dropped weight, so we're trying to find ways to get that weight back on them. I sent one of our workers out to buy the BOSS and Calf Manna, and he thankfully got the right one. Now we just need to mix it in with their feed and see how it goes.