Blue eyed ND questions

Discussion in 'Mini Mania' started by kelebek, Oct 15, 2007.

  1. kelebek

    kelebek New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    South Texas
    I have a registered ND buck and would like to start breeding blue eyes at my ranch. Would it be better to have a blue eyed doe or buck? I am looking at reserving a couple for the spring, but not sure which sex I have a better chance of getting the blue eyes from

    Thanks
    Allison
     
  2. Muddy Creek Farm

    Muddy Creek Farm New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Keokuk, Iowa
    I would say buck. You can spread your blue-eyes throught the herd then :wink:
     

  3. samall

    samall New Member

    124
    Oct 7, 2007
    Iowa
    Blue eyes are a dominant trait in goats, therefore it can't be "carried" by a brown eyed goat. So....you would need to breed your brown eyed goats to blue eyed goats to have a chance at blue eyed kids. I bought a blue eyed buck last year because most of my does are brown eyed and I'd also like to raise some blue eyed ND's. Having both parent's blue eyed does increase your odds for getting blue eyes, but it still isn't guaranteed since both blue-eyed parents might be carrying the brown gene.
     
  4. moonspinner

    moonspinner Member

    154
    Oct 5, 2007
    western NY
    Sex doesn't factor in regarding the odds of blue eyes. Only that you need at least one blue-eyed parent. I have found it helps to have a greater concentration of blue eyes in the goat's pedigree to produce a greater percentage of be kids. For instance, I had a blue eyed doe who only had one blue eyed relative within several generations and she never produced a single be kid for me.
    But as was mentioned, a buck with blue eyes obviously increases chances of more be kids in your herd than a doe.
     
  5. Chaty

    Chaty New Member

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    Oct 5, 2007
    Blue Mound, Kansas
    I had a blue eyed doe that was bred to browneyed buck and she had a blueyed doe...now my blueyed buck produced all blue eyes this season...so I think if 1 at least has blue eyes you got a chance and with a buck you got a better chance.
     
  6. moonspinner

    moonspinner Member

    154
    Oct 5, 2007
    western NY
    Genetically speaking you must have at least one blue eyed parent to produce a blue eyed kid. Chaty, I'm guessing your buck has more than one blue eyed relative in his immediate family if he threw all be kids. Unless of course, he was bred to all be does.
     
  7. Chaty

    Chaty New Member

    49
    Oct 5, 2007
    Blue Mound, Kansas
    Not real sure of his heritage but all of his kids have been born with blue eyes...He is a Nigi/pyg mix and has been a busy boy...yep all the kids had blue eyes. I did see his dam and she had brown eyes.
     
  8. Sweet Gum Minis

    Sweet Gum Minis New Member

    Oct 6, 2007
    Easley, SC
    Its luck of the draw how many you can get from one parent who's blue-eyed. You could get one who throws nearly all, one who's 50/50 or one who rarely does and its an individual thing. Normally speaking you'll get about 50/50.

    A buck can be bred to many does and can spread his blue-eyes around. If you have one doe then all you will get is what she produces so I would go with a buck.
     
  9. VincekFarm

    VincekFarm Senior Member

    Well I have a blue eyed doe bred to a brown eyed buck & she had 2 brown eyed doelings. Butt I recently bought and blue eyed buck and I will be breeding him to the blue eyed doe's daughter so I'm hoping for some blue-eyed kiddos with her recessive traits. XD
     
  10. Both of my ND bucks have blue eyes. When we first got them, we had all brown eyes. Since we bought them, we have gotten 11 blue eyed kids since in 2 years of breeding (that's from 7 does). If you get a buck, the blue eyes will "travel" a lot faster.
     
  11. KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    Just so you know guys...this thread is 4 years old. ;)
     
  12. Lol wow. I never even noticed the dates. :p
     
  13. Oldbattleaxe

    Oldbattleaxe New Member

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    Oct 26, 2011
    The year before last, I covered my herd with a blue eyed buck, and my brown eyed girls only gave me one blue eyed offspring, a buckling :( . In June of this year, my four bucks destryed a section of fence and invaded doe territory. I decided to leave them all together while I built a new buck yard. The boys spent two weeks cavorting with the girls. On Wednesday last, the fall kids started hitting the ground, and so far everyone of them has been blue eyed. I guess I know who did the most cavorting...
     
  14. logansmommy7

    logansmommy7 New Member

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    Nov 11, 2009
    Shenandoah Valley, VA
    Agree with many posters here-My blue eyed buck bred to brown eyed does yielded 5/6 kids with blue eyes...
     
  15. Mini Goat Lover

    Mini Goat Lover New Member

    688
    May 4, 2011
    Arizona
    My brown eyed doe was bred to a blue eyed buck and both her kids had blue eyes.
     
  16. liz

    liz Active Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    Better chance for more BE kids with a BE buck that has parents that are both BE.
     
  17. Randi

    Randi New Member

    Apr 22, 2011
    Calvert County, MD
    How about a blue eyed buck and a blue eyed doe?
     
  18. KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    Actually there wouldn't be a greater chance unless the goat was homozygous for blue eyes. If you have a non-homozygous blue eyed goat, you still have a 50/50 chance of getting blue eyes crossed with a brown eyed goat...no matter if one or both parents were blue eyed on either sire or dam.

    Each kid produced has a certain percentage chance of blue eyes depending on the breeding. It's like rolling the dice for each individual kid...not breeding. It's a total gamble with heterozygous blue eyed goats.

    You could have a whole background of blue eyed goats in a pedigree, if your goat is heterozygous for them, it will make no difference in chances for that goat to produce blue eyes on offspring.

    Here's a good link to how blue eyed genetics work: http://www.goatspots.com/blueeyes.html
     
  19. Randi

    Randi New Member

    Apr 22, 2011
    Calvert County, MD
    So if I am DNA testing anyway, will I find out which blue-eyed genetics I have?
     
  20. KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    Not exactly sure what you mean?
    There is no test for blue eyed homozygousity...however if everything a certain goat is bred to comes out blue eyed then there is a good chance it's homozygous.
    If you have a blue eyed goat from one brown eyed parent, then the only possibility is heterozygous for blue eyes.