Buck eval (dam/grdam pics)

Discussion in 'Goat Frenzy' started by TheMixedBag, Nov 8, 2010.

  1. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    I'm looking for a solid eval so that I know how to explain his strong and weak points better when I start putting up official stud ads, and when I'm explaining him to the few people who've already shown interest.

    I've posted a few pictures of him up here before, but he just doesn't stack well for anybody. I did, however find pictures of Maverick's dam and his sire's dam, but alas, none of his sire...

    He does have one star milker in his pedigree, but both of his grandsires have a *B, which is leaving me quite confused. Of course, that's not really the most confusing bit...his dam is also his sire's dam's mother. Took me a second to realize that....

    Anyways, onto the picture overload. Sorry if some are harder to see. It's impossible to get a good spot to take pictures without grass that covers his feet.

    Toldya he didn't stack well...I promise, he's not that far off his front feet naturally.
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    Granddam: GCH Dill's Rainer's Ricochet
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    http://www.cbcfarm.com/id19.htm (link has udder pic)

    Dam: Snickerdoodles Sundance RicRac
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    http://dillsalittlegoatfarm.com/alpines.htm (pic is his dam and granddam, first doe on "Senior Does" page is his dam, complete with FF and 6th freshening udder pics)
     
  2. myfainters

    myfainters New Member

    Oct 29, 2009
    Lancaster, CA
    How old is your buck? It's hard to tell structure from the pictures because he is obviously fighting them. LOL :devilish:

    I'd like to see more length of body (though he could just be curling his back??) and definitely more width between the hocks.... it looks like he toes out a bit in the front but again... that could also be because he is not cooperating?

    His granddam is pretty....she looks to have decent length to her so he definitely has that behind him if hes doubled up on her.

    Don't know much about udders so I can't judge those for ya.

    I'm not used to seeing horns on dairy goats..... changes the whole look to their faces. :)
     

  3. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    try to get better pics
    he looks VERY narrow and roached.

    if he's calm he'll stand better, bribe him to stand with crackers or a treat.
     
  4. KW Farms

    KW Farms Moderator Supporting Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Wapato, WA
    If he was on cement or harder ground and shaved it would really help, but from these photos I think he looks real narrow as Katrina said. I'd like to see more length as well. He does look pretty level and his rump could probably be a tad more level, but again...he doesn't look to happy and could look much different in a better setting. He appears to be well bred...Dills has been breeding some very nice dairy animals.
     
  5. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    He is pretty narrow, I'm hoping he'll spread out a bit when he matures more, he is only an '09 baby. He does toe out, though....

    You'd be surprised by how calm he was when I tried to stand him for this. I've been trying to stack him for a bit now, but it seems like he's got too much leg under him to do it quite right, at least in the back. (Fainters, don't worry-those horns will be gone by spring next year. I love him to death, but he keeps catching me with that stupid curly one, and I'm getting way too many scratches from it...)

    This picture is horrible as far as being able to see all of him goes, but it might give a better idea on his back, at least.
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  6. SDK

    SDK New Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Yucaipa ca
    i think the roached appearance is due to his coloration.


    faults:
    - he is NARROW, but.. he could grow out wider , especially if he's only a yearling, i know his dam / great grandam took awhile to develop, so its there.
    - I'd like to see a longer neck on him, as well as more length to his body.

    pros:
    - I really like his dairy character and angulation, very dairy looking
    - he's got a nice set of legs on him ( aside from toeing out in front)
    - he's got milk behind him


    all in all he's not that bad
     
  7. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    I'm hoping he'll widen up to about where his sire's brother is. Being so young, I didn't even want to get him appraised until he's at least 2 1/2 (so, about fall next year, I think).

    I doubt that this pic will help much, but I took a pair of scissors to his back...and his neck...and his forehead....and his tail...it's kinda sad, though, he stands so nicely when he's peeing :angry: (and yes, that is HIS box. He beats the poo out of it and chases it around on a regular basis)
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  8. SDK

    SDK New Member

    Jun 26, 2008
    Yucaipa ca
    I stand by my prior eval.. he's not bad right now for his age, just needs some time

    also.. WICKED scurs
     
  9. TheMixedBag

    TheMixedBag The Hoofcare and Repro specialist

    Oct 16, 2010
    Glencoe, OK
    I'm not even sure they can count as scurs anymore :greengrin: It'll be fun taking them off, though...