bucks VS does

Discussion in 'Birth Announcements' started by heavenlyhaven, Mar 1, 2011.

  1. heavenlyhaven

    heavenlyhaven Senior Member

    627
    Apr 16, 2008
    Belmont, NY
    just curious
    #1) how many kids have you had this year (well, your goats, LOL ) and what is the buck to doe ratio
    #2) do you put ACV in their water

    my reason for asking
    i was told that the acidity of the ACV (apple cider vinegar) builds up in the goats system
    good for a few things
    stops biting bugs (i'm gonna start drinking it - lol)
    prevents UC in males
    and, the reason for the above question,
    it makes it harder for the male hormone to produce male reproductive organs
    thus
    more does than bucks
    my first year i gave acv and had almost all does (dont remember numbers)
    the second year i did not give acv and had more bucks (again - ?numbers?)
    last year i gave and had about an equal ratio
    this year i gave acv and have had 13 babies and only 5 bucks
     
  2. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    very interested, I've been hearing this for awhile

    i dont give ACV (yet..hehe!)
    3/4 kids so far have been males.
    8 more does to kid
     

  3. iddybit acres

    iddybit acres New Member

    654
    Feb 17, 2011
    Newberry, MI
    how much acv per gallon of water?
     
  4. WalnutGroveFarm

    WalnutGroveFarm Senior Member

    Sep 27, 2008
    Southern Ohio
    I have two does that have kidded so far. 5 kids born 4 male 1 female.
    six more does to kid.
     
  5. GotmygoatMTJ

    GotmygoatMTJ New Member

    I too have read about the ACV and have decided it would be a good investment. :p

    Our last kidding season we had half and half. No acv. but only 6 kids that time.

    The time before that, no acv, 8 kids, only 2 does. O__o I was not happy with that! LOL
     
  6. goatsnmore

    goatsnmore New Member

    84
    Feb 22, 2011
    We had 3/4 males born this year. How much ACV do you use per gallon? I'd love to give this a try.
     
  7. heavenlyhaven

    heavenlyhaven Senior Member

    627
    Apr 16, 2008
    Belmont, NY
    i really dont know what the "recommended" dosage is
    i just pour in a good amount
    i offer 2 buckets of water at all times
    one with and one without
    my goats seem to prefer the one with...
    i think i read somewhere 1C to 5gal but dont quote me
    i just pour

    i have one doe left to kid but she throws one single doeling every year that is her exact twin (knock on wood - i have jinxed myself - now she will throw twin bucks - just wait...LOL)
     
  8. Goat Crazy

    Goat Crazy New Member

    616
    Feb 8, 2010
    NE Ohio
    Last year, no ACV I had 2bucks 7 does! This years kidding hasn't begun, but the first two does to kid don't have any bucky smells, so I am thinking does:)
    AVC is good for over all health, so even if doesn't tip the ratio, you will have healthier goats!

    Do you use Pasteurize ACV?
     
  9. RPC

    RPC Boer Goat Breeder

    So since I want bucks I should not give them ACV. Good to know.
     
  10. Hush Hills Fainters

    Hush Hills Fainters New Member

    123
    Oct 27, 2010
  11. milkmaid

    milkmaid I'm not addicted - I'm in love!

    I give ACV in feed, 1 tsp per (mini) goat per day.
    This year, :kidblue: :kidblue: :kidred: .
    I've been wondering this same thing. This will be an interesting study!

    Edit - I pen bred. Next time I'll hand breed.
     
  12. HoosierShadow

    HoosierShadow Senior Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Central Kentucky
    hmmmm I have no idea where the reply I just wrote went....LOL!!!

    no ACV here, but I've thought about it...

    2011-
    5 does to kid
    4 kidded
    4 bucks
    4 does

    each doe gave us a buck and a doe! waiting to see if the last doe to kid <in April> will break the trend!
     
  13. heavenlyhaven

    heavenlyhaven Senior Member

    627
    Apr 16, 2008
    Belmont, NY
    sorry for the double post - my lap top has been stupid lately

    i am just curious if what i hear is true - i have always given ACV for my boys - well the one year i did not give it as much as i usually did or wanted to - had a very hard time finding it and when i did it was over $6 a gallon - and that was the "year of the bucks" LOL -
    haveing a hard time finding it this yer too - cant find gallon jugs - just little bottles that are $3 but ya gotta do what ya gotta do...
     
  14. goathappy

    goathappy New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Illinois
  15. minibarn

    minibarn Well-Known Member

    Jul 20, 2010
    ontario canada
    i don't do ACV and i also handbred the does multiple times to the buck, not only once like sarah said. out of 5 does so far we have 6 does and 2 bucks.
     
  16. rrooster76

    rrooster76 New Member

    24
    Jan 29, 2011
    East Central Minnesota
    No apple cider vinegar here...
    3 does
    1 buck
     
  17. Dunfactor

    Dunfactor New Member

    223
    Dec 10, 2009
    I have not tried the ACV with the goats but am very interested to see what you all get from your does.

    I did try the ACV with my horses, as I had also read about ACV tipping the ratio toward fillies. No luck at all for me though. I got three out of three colts with the mares on ACV and the outside mare who was not on ACV got the only filly. Two years before my mares on ACV also gave me colts and the next year my only mare bred was on ACV and aborted a colt. Bummer... I always prefer to get girls from my mares. So no ACV for the horses at all now! Not sure if it tipped the scale toward boys but I am not taking any chances just in case. :sigh:

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