Building a new doe barn!

Discussion in 'Goat Frenzy' started by HoosierShadow, Aug 14, 2020.

  1. NDinKY

    NDinKY Well-Known Member

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    Aug 3, 2019
    Kentucky
    That’s exciting progress! Good job getting all that gravel moved, sounds like quite the task.
     
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  2. MellonFriend

    MellonFriend Well-Known Member

    Aww your girls are so pretty! :inlove:
     
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  3. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    You guys are doing :great:!! Its so nice to read about how YOUR FAMILY is doing this together! So happy for you. I really like how well your plans are coming along. Your girls look really good as always..
    But I think the Kentucky Derby is coming....you going? I hope so...your pics are amazing...!!!:clapping:
     
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  4. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
  5. HoosierShadow

    HoosierShadow Senior Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Central Kentucky
    Thanks! It's getting there! My husband and kids were able to get the rest of the 1st load moved! The girls are getting used to their new temporary housing, but still protest a bit.

    Thanks so much! I will say my son is not enjoying it, he wants us to bring the Bobcat in and do all the work lol but I can't blame him. At this point I can't really help them, my arm was complaining last night - nerve was twitching on the back of my shoulder/lower backside of my arm last night and this morning, it was so annoying! Stiff today - never had nerve twitching before. I called my family doctor and left a message to see if I can go ahead and get a referral for another doctor, so when she is able to call me I'll give her more details (last doctor was a hand specialist and hard to get into him). If I need to do therapy, at least I can try to find somewhere local. I just feel like therapy alone isn't going to fix my issue. thankfully I feel okay tonight, just a bit stiff.

    Yep, Derby is Sept 5th, but I am not going. Honestly... I don't want to go this year which is a shame as I think it's shaping up to be a good one. They are not allowing spectators and last I was told only 20% of media - there are HUNDREDS of people who go every year in the media, it's crazy. So that is a major cut. There is just so much unrest in Louisville I don't feel safe going there.
    Instead, I am waiting to see if I am approved to attend the September Yearling Sale which starts in a couple of weeks. They have an app that you have to apply for a credential through and require testing, which I plan on doing on site testing for.
    Praying I can work the October Keeneland meet, then we have Breeders Cup in November at Keeneland. We have a big team for that, so I am praying they approve credentials for the whole team (official photographers for BC).
     
  6. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    Wow..you are a busy lady...Now when do you have time for kidding? No wonder you are hurting.
    I dont blame your Son..Bobcats are fun to play in. And he wouldnt have to hurry....so he could play a long...long time!:heehee: Now you also have 4H &.Ffa??? Whew....I remember those days...lol.
    Well I bet your new Barn will be stunning. And I love your photography..So I hope you get into all the sales and races you want. Cant wait to see what you do this year! Congrats and good luck!!
     
  7. HoosierShadow

    HoosierShadow Senior Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Central Kentucky
    Thanks Moers I appreciate it! Yeah my son was looking forward to the Bobcat, but turns out we won't need it! My husband has gotten nearly all of the gravel moved! He's asking 'so... what are we putting on top for the floor?' lol. I wanted to wait and do the floor after the building is setup, but he wants to do it before it gets here. So now we have to figure out what to use.
    Class I sand is what we have in the buck shelter and used it to build up the floor over a foot, and put stall mats over part of it where they sleep. But... unless it's packed firm (which can be hard to do), then when you sweep you'll sweep the little pelleted gravel and dust with it as it is a fine pebbled/dusty gravel.

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    I've had mention of using Limestone? I'd love something that packs in flat and firm and not as easy to pull up with the broom or rake. We may eventually put some stall mats down, but not sure it will be soon.

    I honestly am not sure what will happen with 4H/FFA outside of the sale in a few weeks. The livestock club has done 'nothing' not even online meetings or educational stuff since February. So fingers crossed we can figure out ways to get the kids involved. My daughter won't get to do FFA this year most likely as she doesn't have an Ag class (and is doing virtual schooling). She'll be in High school next year and we can push more for FFA.
     
  8. ksalvagno

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  9. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    Last winter..I think it was @happybleats .it was a very wet year and they were putting down an inexpensive product the dried hard. Easy to sweep. They used it for pathways. I dont remember what it was called. Maybe you could ask them.
     
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  10. daisymay

    daisymay Well-Known Member

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    Feb 13, 2017
    oregon
    there was a farm i visited. they had wood floor where the goats were, kind of like a deck but, slats(2x4 but the 2'' side was up) if that makes sense so the manure and urine goes thru, i think they made them 4'x4' or something like that so they can pick them up to clean underneath a couple times a year. i believe every other one had a slight angle. it was really neat for the barn area, kept it clean. someday im going to try it.
     
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  11. Feira426

    Feira426 Well-Known Member

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    Dec 11, 2019
    Texas
    Look at you go! How exciting, and looks like you are putting so much thought into it all. I’m sure it’ll turn out great!!

    As far as wood siding, I also prefer boards - they are much sturdier than the siding panels I’ve used, and if something happens to one you can just replace the one board instead of a whole large sheet.

    Just my two cents, and I’m sure there are many pros and cons for either!
     
  12. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    So much being accomplished, coming along nicely. :)
     
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  13. HoosierShadow

    HoosierShadow Senior Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Central Kentucky
    Thanks so much! I'm sorry I'm so late in replying, the last few days have been a bit busy and every time I tried to get on, I got interrupted lol!

    Steve - THANK YOU for the suggestion! I am going to put in yet another call to my doctor today, and I will mention that to them! It's definitely frustrating, and avoiding any kind of shots would definitely be nice, especially until I could get into some kind of specialist. I really think I need a surgeon that specializes in back/neck/arm - last one I seen was a hand specialist.

    We have 8 mature does, and a young doe who I'm not sure we're keeping = we opted to sell all our other young does and not retain any, so I don't really know how I'd wean her without splitting up our does. I told my son we should sell her, we'll see.
    Part of the reason we are building the new building is so my daughter has a place to keep her show goats as well, and so she can better care for them and prep them for showing. She likes to show registered Boer breeding goats in the county fairs and a few ABGA shows, but with our county fairs all being cancelled, she only got to go to '1' ABGA show this summer. So we're planning on letting her keep 1-2 Market wethers, and some commercial doe projects. If I knew the shows would be cancelled we would have tagged in does to show in commercial classes! So we'll be more prepared next year. We'll also be buying 1-2 new young does for her to show in ABGA shows, and most likely will be buck shopping for a young buck that she can raise/show. We love our current buck who just turned 2yo, but she doesn't want to show him as he is a bit hard for her to handle (hard to keep him standing still lol). So we'll see, we may sell him, or may just end up buying him a new young buddy. Decisions...lol.

    We haven't been able to work on the building site in a couple of days thanks to the rainy weather. Hopefully we'll dry out some after today. My husband only has a tiny bit of gravel to move, but we need to take new measurements and make sure we have some overhang on the sides then level it the best we can.

    I will message Happybleats about flooring and see what they used and have some ideas from friends on FB :)
     
  14. HoosierShadow

    HoosierShadow Senior Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Central Kentucky
    Thanks, I appreciate it and will look into it! I've seen a general ortho who couldn't pinpoint issue (started with a cyst in my wrist daughter was playing and squeezed my wrist back in Oct, pain shot up my arm and it's not been right since then with tingling, muscle pain, weakness, etc.). Ortho said cyst wasn't an issue... Seen one of the best hand surgeons in our area, and he said compressed nerves in my neck, but I still think it goes beyond that. He recommended therapy, it helped but only took the edge off. I feel like it's localized in my arm, but goes down into my back. The cyst has shrunk to nearly being gone, but if you run your finger over the site, it has a burning sensation afterward. So weird.

    We've actually raised goats for 10 years and don't bottle feed - I try to avoid bottle babies as much as possible honestly lol. We've just been needing this barn upgrade for a long time. Our barn is just too small and the cattle panel shelter just wasn't working out - we need something bigger and hopefully better.
    We normally keep at least 2 doe kids each year. Most of our does kidded in January, and planned to keep 2-3 doe kids, but decided to sell everything and use some of the $$ to help pay for the new building. This little doe we have now was born in May, and is the only May doeling we got from 2 kiddings (her brother is weaned and in with my daughter's 4H wether).
    We normally have 2 bucks together or a buck and a wether and don't have problems - normally. We just sold our bucks twin brother back in June, and they got along great, but they played all the time. The brother was more dominant, but neither would try to hurt you. So hard selling these guys, but fun to change bloodlines, and with my kids showing, it's good to get young stock to raise & show, then use for breeding.
     
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  15. HoosierShadow

    HoosierShadow Senior Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Central Kentucky
    We're hoping to order the flooring to put over the gravel this week! We measured the gravel spot yesterday and hubby just needs to spread some rock around at the front of the building site and it'll be ready for the next step!

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    My next concern is drainage. We need to work on installing some drainage pipes. I'm just not sure how/where we should do it yet but planning on doing a French drain type of pipe buried that will go from front far corner (near barn) of new building site out towards the creek, then install 2-3 different pipes in the area beyond the building site. We'd like to build the ground up in these areas, but not sure how/what to use. Dirt will just turn to mud. Gravel isn't an option right now ($$ this is an expensive project already have $422 in gravel so far!), I had thought about a load of wood chips? My husband says no, but I know it's going to get muddy!

    Pictures below -

    This is between creek and building site - it's dried out/firm now as I took this a few days ago after a lot of rain. This is the back side of the carport barn, and where the does will come/go into their sleeping area. The darker spot is where the dump truck's tire sunk more than half way in!
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    Yesterday - creek is where the grass isn't cut.
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    This whole grassy area gets swampy.
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    So that's where we are right now on this. Kind of on hold until after this Labor day holiday.

    BTW, I saw this idea on a FB group and plan on doing something like this on the back, but bigger/wider.
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    Also doing the back similar to this (most likely with wood and a window of some sort in the middle). That away the left side would go to the front yard if we want them up there (where they stay at night right now), and the right would allow them to go out the back. When we have kids we prefer to keep them in the front area. So if we want them to go one way, we can shut the other door (gate in the summer). So far that's the plan, let's see how much we change it or how much my husband hates it lol
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  16. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    Looking Good! You guys are comingnup with fantastic ideas! Fascinating reading about your ideas:!:clever:
     
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  17. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
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  19. HoosierShadow

    HoosierShadow Senior Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Central Kentucky
    Thanks I appreciate it! I can't wait until it's installed! I am very much a visual planner, so it's hard to figure out how we'll do the inside.

    We also need to finish the buck shelter. We just have one wall that still needs boards. I want to get it painted in the next couple of weeks. Really should have gotten it done so we could paint it this week!

    We raised the floor about 1' or so with Class I Sand earlier this year and put the stall mats over it. Warm months we don't keep any bedding down, and that also keeps them from wanting to pee inside! The young boys generally will not pee in there if we keep all the hay swept up, same with the big buck. They are wasteful with hay though, so between hay/poo we sweep twice a day. I did just sweep his side out - he is the worst with hay, looks like he has a party with it lol
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    Weird wide angle pic. Yep gotta get this thing done, we built this last year and never finished it lol. My husband is being picky about the pallets for getting boards off of (ugh). Need to cut the extra length off the top (we were going to extend the roof and decided not to). Ignore the mismatch barn lol we never finished painting because we had goats back there that wouldn't leave it alone years ago lol Getting ready to paint barn too! Barn was originally that blue grey color, I told hubby nope RED! haha.


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    They yucky green area is near the gate (not pictured) and that is where the buck likes to pee lol. We're planning to work on that part of the pen just not sure yet what we'll use - gravel or make a walkway with large rock. It gets pretty mucky in the winter/wet months.
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    So this is about what it looks like in the evening if it's swept out in the morning. We have a pile and pick it up every other day or as needed. I don't get too picky if it's mostly spent hay.
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    Not fancy, but it has worked out great. It faces the east, near the fence/tree line and really helps keep the weather out. Now to get this thing finished, I just need to measure pallet boards and see if I can locate the exact same size (came from construction site).
     
  20. HoosierShadow

    HoosierShadow Senior Member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Central Kentucky
    Thought I'd update our progress so far! The Carport is running about a week behind, and should be here sometime this coming week.
    Last week we got Grade driveway Gravel and put it over the 2" gravel. It was quite funny seeing this big truck back there. This guy wasn't going to get stuck and he didn't lol
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    While waiting, and having some dry weather I picked up some barn paint and we got the buck shelter painted. When my husband takes his vacation he's going to find the right sized pallets so he can pull boards to fill in the gaps and get this shelter done!
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    The boards that are longer are there on purpose to help hold the rocks/wood barrier on the bottom in, so the Class I sand flooring doesn't erode out over time.
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    Got this shelter that the does currently have access to as well.
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    These old sheds are... OLD, haha. They are next to the house, and are in need of major TLC, but look good now with a new coat of paint (minus 1 side - ran out of paint lol)
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    I'm not thinking Bonfire for these things anymore right now...lol
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    I want to paint the barn as much as I can hopefully in the next week. Can't really do the front doors until my husband fixes them.
     
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