Aaggh! I just finished typing this whole post and it deleted everything! Oh well, here goes again:\ I really hope it works out to get these two new goats!! Of course they not friendly. Just about all the goats from this breeder are not friendly. . . oh well, they are a lot cheaper than the other does I was looking at a while back. Here they are: Sugar Pine CT Ginger Pye April 24, 2008 polled! Sire: Tahoma Citation SS: Twin Creeks AH In The Spotlight SD: Mountain Quest AE Molasses Dam: Sugar-Pine LK Gingerbread SS: NC PromisedLand HS Lion King SD: Sugar-Pine SB Blackstrap (I think this doe is a CH, not positive though) Sugar Pine FD Panda Bear February 29, 2008 Sire: Hayseed Farm's FA Flash Dancer SS: Hayseed Farm's Final Answer SD: Gay-Mor's Lucky Native Dancer Dam: Sugar-Pine SL Bear Cat (almost a permanent CH) SS: Twin Creeks AH In The Spotlight SD: Mountain Quest GA Snow Bear What do you think? I really hope it works out to get them!! Oh, Panda Bear is being shown in the ADGA show at Oregon State Fair, hopefully she is a good girl and places well!