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C&H Scapegoats Alpine kidding wait!

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2020 was such a hard year in so many ways. Between Covid, partial layoffs, the shut downs, distance learning, wild fires and evacuation, to last years goat problems which were numerous and serious.
Then little things like being stuck home with 3 children, no shows, no fairs, no sports . . . It was quite a rough year and much of it has continued through to this year. I really need an uneventful kidding season!
My first up to kid is Venus. She's a 4yo doe and has had 2 sets of triplets and 1 pair of twins. Venus was bred AI this year and my daughter has been chanting "triplet girls" for almost 5 months to her Due March 4th



Next up is Tasha. She'll be a 2yo first freshener. She was confirmed bred with ultrasound, AIed to the same buck as Venus and on the same day but showed signs of heat after. I put her back in with the buck 3 weeks later but she wasn't marked (buck wears a harness whenever he's with a doe). Tasha isn't showing any signs of pregnancy and I can't bump a kid on her either. I may have her checked again. If she is bred and took AI she'd be due the 4th too.


Next one due is Stubborn on the 9th. Also bred AI, I'm really crossing my fingers for these kids! Stubborn had listeriosis last year just before kidding and while we managed to save her she has some permanent vision loss. Not blindness but she has a hard time with depth so she struggles with getting on and off the stand and things like that.



Bonnie was another AI bred doe and another 2yo first freshener. She's due the 14th.


Last is Franny. She's a half sister to Venus on the sire and bred for big milk production. She should be due May 10th but she acts like she's in heat often so she's getting checked again. I bought this doe as a pair for her daughter. It turns out Franny is crazy. She hasn't been handled much and no one told her flight was the other option to fight. She's ok with my daughter but hates me and tries to hit me every time I handle her. She's smashed my face when I got her on the stand for her ultrasound and hit me hard enough that my tooth was knocked loose, massive nose bleed from both nostrils, and my lips mangled. After she kids I'll see if there's a dairy that wants her. She was bred to my buck that I retained last year. I don't have decent pics of her because I'm not going to pick a fight to get them.
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I’ll be watching this thread!
As a fellow Alpine breeder up in WA, I’d love to see the planned pedigrees of these breedings!
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Nice looking girls! Just too bad Franny is so crazy!
Good,luck with all of them, I hope they are all bred!
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[mention]Ranger1 [/mention] here you go! We spent hours on the genetics sites picking out what straws to buy this year!

We're really excited for another season of AI kidding.

Venus starts and then down the list as pictured in the above post!




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Thanks!
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Nice does. :)
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Venus has 12 days until her due date. I'm really wondering what she's got in there!?! Keep in mind this is a big doe! She weighs in right at 180 pounds open and dry! Plenty of room in her to hide kids and she's still this big. We only saw 1 on her ultrasound so my fingers are crossed that there's more in there!
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Venus has 12 days until her due date. I'm really wondering what she's got in there!?! Keep in mind this is a big doe! She weighs in right at 180 pounds open and dry! Plenty of room in her to hide kids and she's still this big. We only saw 1 on her ultrasound so my fingers are crossed that there's more in there!
She looks so big for only 1 kid!
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I’m hoping there’s more than 1! Better be more than 1 anyway!

Venus herself was the smaller of a pair of 12.9/11.12 pound twins. The doe managed to sneeze them out with no problem and so far Venus has had pretty average sized kids. She did have c section her very first time kidding, delivered a nice 7 pound doe but the twin had his head back and nobody could get it turned. This was the year I had broken both wrists so daughter, neighbor, and vet worked on her. She’s kidded twice since then with no problems but I’d still hate to see her with a big single!
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Tasha took on her later date so she’s not due until the 25th.
Unfortunately Franny is open. Since she’s crazy and I bought her for her daughter I may just list her now and be done!
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5 days until her due date.



10 days for Stubborn!

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Venus has lost one lug but the other is still there
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Good luck. :)
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How’s it going? Did Venus kid yet?
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Finally!

Venus spent all last night dithering about and making me watch her. Finally started having real contractions around noon today but never progressed.

I eventually had to go in. I felt a large head, nose down, and a leg but the leg didn't feel like it belonged to the same kid. Got the stray leg pushed back and started working on getting the head up so I could reach around and find the legs. I could only get one leg, the other was straight back against the kids body and I couldn't reach it. Plus there was absolutely no room at all!

I called in my incredible neighbor for help. She went in but also couldn't get the leg. We pulled the kid with one leg back
, it had been dead a while. Went back in and pulled the next, and then the next, and then the next!

Venus had quads, all bucks , with three that lived. They were big, huge for quads! The stillborn was over 10 pounds, then 9.5, 9, and 8.75! Poor Venus was packing almost 40 pounds of kids!

They are doing pretty well although one kid has contracted tendons on his back legs and is a bit weaker and wobbly. I'll probably end up pulling him and bottle raising. Right now they are with Venus and all have nursed, peed, and pooped. Yay!

Venus got her penicillin, B complex, and probiotics and seems to be doing incredibly well considering what a rough delivery she had! She's eating, drinking, and chewing cud along with being absolutely delighted with her kids!


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Oh my gosh, that’s a bunch of gorgeous bucklings! Poor Venus, that’s a lot of extra weight to be packing around. I’m sorry that one didn’t make it but trips is great and still a handful.
She looks like quite the proud momma. I hope she’s not sore for long those boys are going to keep her busy.
Congratulations to you and Venus :)
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Great job getting the kids out! :goodjob:
I admire you for keeping so level headed, getting help and doing it! Venus looks great!
Sorry about one being stillborn.
The three boys are so cute! A bundle of joy!:inlove::inlove::inlove:
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3 big boys and they're all nursing off one side
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