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Dose anyone feed Calf Manna to 'flush' their does before breeding season? I have always used Blue Seal Sunshine Plus, but it's so expensive and I really don't need a big 50# bag.. I can get a small 10# or so bad of Calf Manna at a fair price at TSC.. so I was just wondering thoughts on it :)
 

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Posting both here so I can get feed back and compare them better myself...

Calf Manna
Ingredients:
Soybean meal, corn, hominy feed, feeding oatmeal, dried whey, dehydrated alfalfa meal , linseed meal, brewer's dried yeast, vegetable oil, fenugreek seed, anise oil, calcium carbonate, monocalcium phosphate, dicalcium phosphate, salt, sulfur, iron oxide, ferrous carbonate, ferrous sulfate, copper oxide, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, zinc oxide, sodium selenite, cobalt carbonate, calcium iodate, vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, choline chloride, thiamine mononitrate, niacin supplement, riboflavin supplement, calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin B12 supplement, folic acid, biotin, propionic acid.

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein (min.) 25.00%, Lysine (min.) 1.4%, Methionine (min.) 0.3%, Crude Fat (min.) 3.0%, Crude Fiber (min.) 3.0, Crude Fiber (max.) 6.00%, Acid Detergent Fiber (max.) 10.0%, Calcium (min.) 0.7 %, Calcium (max.) 1.2 %, Phosphorus (min.) 0.6 %, Salt (min.) 0.5 %, Salt (max.) 1.0 %, Sodium (min.) 0.2 %, Sodium (max.) 0.4 %, Copper (min.) 15 ppm, Copper (max.) 35 ppm, Selenium (min.) 0.1 ppm, Zinc (min.) 125 ppm, Vitamin A (min.) 20,000 IU/lb.

Sunshine Plus
GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein, Min. .......................................... 30.0% Lysine, Min. ....................................................... 2.0% Crude Fat, Min. .................................................. 3.0% Crude Fiber, Min. ........... 3.0% Max. .............. 6.0% Acid Detergent Fiber (ADF), Max. ...................... 8.0% Calcium, Min. .............. 2.75% Max. ............ 3.30% Phosphorus, Min. ............................................. 1.70% Salt, Min. .................... 0.50% Max. ............ 1.00% Potassium, Min. ............................................... 1.40% Copper, Min. ............ 250 ppm Max. ........ 280 ppm Selenium, Min. .............................................. 3.0 ppm Zinc, Min. ..................................................... 850 ppm Vitamin A, Min. ....................................... 25,000 IU/lb. Vitamin D, Min. ........................................ 3,500 IU/lb. Vitamin E, Min. ............................................ 525 IU/lb.

INGREDIENTS
Dehulled Soybean Meal, Wheat Middlings, Yeast Culture, Corn Distillers Dried Grains, Cane Molasses, Dried Whey, Calcium Carbonate, Monocalcium Phosphate, Salt, Magnesium Oxide, Anise Oil, Vegetable Oil, L-Lysine Monohydrochloride, DL-Methionine, Choline Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Manganese Sulfate, Manganese Proteinate, Calcium Iodate, Cobalt Carbonate, Copper Sulfate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Selenium Yeast, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Riboflavin, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin, Folic Acid, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Brewers Dried Yeast, Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Yeast Fermentation Solubles.
 

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I use calf manna, well actually I use a better version of it, to flush my does.

The Blue Seal looks like its a better feed though, so the higher quality it is, the less you would need to feed, thus being able to use it longer, so that would justify the price a bit.
 

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BigV Supremo Supercharge. Kind of like Calf Manna but less expensive. available in #25lb and 50lb. I have very good results using as a top dress for show stock.

Crude Protein, min................................................................32.00%
Lysine, min...............................................................................1.75%
Methionine, min.........................................................................0.40%

Crude Fat, min........................................................................5.00%
Crude Fiber, max....................................................................6.50%
Acid Detergent Fiber (ADF). max......................................... 9.75%
Calcium (Ca), min....................................................................1.25%
Calcium (Ca), max...................................................................1.75%
Phosphorus (P), min.................................................................1.00%
Potassium (K), min.......…........................................................1.00%
Copper (Cu), min...............................................................60.00 ppm
Copper (Cu), max..............................................................80.00 ppm

Selenium, min.......................................................................0.60 ppm
Zinc (Zn), min...................................................................200.00 ppm
Vitamin A, min.....................................….....................30,000 IU/LB.
Vitamin D3, min.....................................….....................4,000 IU/LB.
Vitamin E, min......................................................................60 IU/LB.
Vitamin B12, min..........................................................1.00 MCG/LB

Biotin, min....................................................................250 MCG/LB.
Pantothenic Acid, min........................................................10 MG/LB.
Choline, min.................................................................1,100 MG/LB.
Riboflavin, min.................................................................115 MG/LB.


INGREDIENTS:
Soybean Meal, Wheat Middlings, Yellow Corn Meal, Molasses Product, Soybean Oil, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Calcium Carbonate, Monocalcium/Dicalcium Phosphate, Dried Whey, Dried Skimmed Milk, Dried Whey Protein Concentrate, Yeast Culture, Biotin, Dried Citric Acid Presscake, Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Methionine Complex, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Manganese Methionine Complex, Copper Sulfate, Copper Lysine Complex, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Anise Flavoring, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin Supplement, Choline Chloride, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Cobalt Carbonate, Cobalt Glucoheptonate, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Lactis Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Plantarum Fermentation Product, Dried Enterococcus Cremoris Fermentation Product, Dried Enterococcus Diacetilactis Fermentation Product, Dried B-Subtillis Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Product, Dried Brewers Yeast, Ethylenediamine Dihydroiodide, Sodium Selenium, Folic Acid Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Ascorbic Acid, Iron Oxide.
 

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I use Excelorator, its about $25-27 per 50lb bag
http://www.farmerswarehouse.com/products.html its under "specialty feeds"

ANALYSIS
Crude Protein ........................................ Not Less Than ....................................... 28.0 Pct
Crude Fat ............................................... Not Less Than ......................................... 4.0 Pct
Crude Fiber ........................................... Not More Than ........................................ 4.0 Pct
Calcium ................................................. Not Less Than ......................................... 0.8 Pct
Calcium ................................................ Not More Than ........................................ 1.4 Pct
Phosphorous .......................................... Not Less Than ......................................... 0.7 Pct
Salt .............................................................. Between ...................................... 0.3 - 0.5 Pct
Potassium ............................................... Not Less Than ......................................... 1.2 Pct
Selenium ................................................ Not Less Than ....................................... 0.68 ppm
Selenium ............................................... Not More Than ...................................... 0.75 ppm
Copper ................................................... Not Less Than ....................................... 50.0 ppm
Zinc ......................................................... Not Less Than ..................................... 525.0 ppm
Vitamin A ............................................... Not Less Than ................................. 43000.0 IU/lb

INGREDIENTS

Soybean Meal, Ground Corn, Linseed Meal, Steam Crimped Oats, Gelatinized Corn Flour (Corn Starch), Dried Whey, Wheat Millrun, Ground Limestone, Yeast Culture,Soybean Oil, Dicalcium Phosphate, Monocalcium Phosphate, Corn Distillers Dried Grains With Solubles, Salt, Iron Oxide, Magnesium Oxide, Kelp Meal, Certified Color Added, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Extracted Streptomyces Meal, Condensed Fermentation Corn Extractives, Vitamin A Supplement, Manganese Sulfate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Cobalt Glucoheptonate, Biotin, Calcium Pantothenate, Choline Chloride, Corn Cob Fractions, Zinc Sulfate, Niacin Supplement, Calcium Carbonate, Manganous Oxide, Ferrous Sulfate, Calcium Iodate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Cobalt Carbonate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Sodium Selenite.
 

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Thanks guys!

I have never heard of those two before...

I will have to see if I can get the 25# pail of Sunshine Plus at me feed store or not... I just don't need a 50# bag right now...

And should I flush my bucks too??
 

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I don't bother flushing with supplements. About a month before I want to breed, I bump up to the next level of protein in my grain. I feed a dairy feed that comes in 16, 18 and 20% protein levels. They are identical except for the protein %, so I can just change over a month before. This works out really well for me, and I have been doing it for 25 years or so.
 
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