It took us 5 yrs before we retained our own buck. Well the poor fella got some sort of injury last fall & no longer tracks properly in the rear. He will be used but sparingly. This is they guy I posted about last fall. Chiro work was not a permanent fix. Someone offered a good price on a very nice buck a few mos back (we had leased him last yr) Anyway what a joy to watch someone come into heat & just walk her over to the new buck's pen! No logistal nightmares to find buck no loading does or buck I tell you I am totally ecstatic!