Causes of Stillbirth

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by Angus, Apr 24, 2010.

  1. Angus

    Angus New Member

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    Nov 14, 2009
    Had several does this year with apparently full term kids, born dead, or died shortly after birth. Was told it could be Chlamydia, and should vaccinate for it, just in case. Are there other common causes to check for? We haven't had this problem before. Any ideas?
     
  2. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Are your does getting loose salt and minerals with copper in it? When a doe isn't getting all the minerals.... it can cause weak kids.

    Sometimes...also if a doe gets slammed hard.. a kid can die inside.

    There are a few diseases... that can cause kids to die like that. If you have several does with dead kids.... I recommend having a vet check your does. They may need treatment. :hug:

    Sometimes shipping a pregnant doe in late term...can cause early delivery.....then the kids with die shortly after birth.... because they aren't ready.... :hug:

    I am so sorry ...you are having trouble...it isn't easy to lose that many kids.... :(
     

  3. AlaskaBoers

    AlaskaBoers New Member

    May 6, 2008
    Wasilla Alaska
    aww thats sad.
    If you're having many or multiple does having stillborns I'd call your vet.
     
  4. I agree with the above. And stress can cause this too. However with more then one this could be the case and your buck will need to be treated as well. The boys can pass it around the girls that do not have it. Just like with people if you treat one you need to treat them all.
     
  5. kornhypknotic

    kornhypknotic New Member

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    May 14, 2009
    Waco, TX
    So sorry! :hug:

    A few things off the top of my head that cause abortion in ruminants including goats are:
    stress
    eating toxic plants (deadly nightshade, yellow pine, rhododendron, etc.)
    nutritional deficiencies (protein deficiency, anorexic, etc.)
    mineral deficiencies (iodine, manganese, copper, iron, etc.)
    mineral excess (selenium, nitrate/nitrite - can be found in topdressing or pasture fertilizer, etc.)
    vitamin deficiencies (B12, thiamine, vit. a, etc.)
    White Muscle Disease
    camphylobacter
    chlamydia
    toxoplasma gondii parasitic infection
    trichomonas foetus parasitic infection
    brucellosis
    leptospirosis
    mycoplasma
    listerosis
    congenital abnormalities in the baby itself

    If your vet thinks it's chlamydia and you should vaccinate for it . . . if you trust your vet and they have a good knowledge of goats in the area or if he/she has tested your goats for it . . . I would take your vet's advise. If you don't know for sure, I would take your favorite doe and get her tested. If it's something curable, treat all your does accordingly.
     
  6. liz

    liz Well-Known Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Shelocta PA
    To have one still birth or abortion I would attribute it to a hard ram from another goat but to have numerous deaths I would say to get the vet involved and do testing for the diseases that Jess listed.....a few $ now could very well save your next kid crop.
     
  7. kornhypknotic

    kornhypknotic New Member

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    May 14, 2009
    Waco, TX
    Oh yeah! Like Liz said, trauma can certainly cause abortion . . . but it sounds like since several of your girls are having this problem I would look into other causes . . . unless you have an extremely aggressive goat in your pasture with the pregnant does. :shrug:
     
  8. Angus

    Angus New Member

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    Nov 14, 2009
    Leaning towards Chlamydia, but it looks like the only way to test for it is with the placenta. Also haven't heard of a vaccine. Only way to treat is with Tetracyclines before birth. Don't want to have to do that every year. There is a vaccine that is in use for sheep, but not cleared for goats. Does anyone have any experience with this?
     
  9. sweetgoats

    sweetgoats Moderator

    Oct 18, 2007
    Peyton CO.
    Do you have cats? Are they in with your hay?
     
  10. countrymom

    countrymom New Member

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    Apr 1, 2010
    versailles, MO
    Just curious why would you ask about cats in the hay?
     
  11. Realfoodmama

    Realfoodmama New Member

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    Apr 12, 2010
    Santa Fe, NM
    I assume toxoplasmosis?

    There is a thread about it here somewhere....

    Didn't know it could cause spontaneous abortion though.
     
  12. countrymom

    countrymom New Member

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    Apr 1, 2010
    versailles, MO
    Okay that makes since. I know it can be an issue in humans never really thought about goats before. Good to know!!!
     
  13. suzizuppardo

    suzizuppardo New Member

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    Feb 18, 2013
    We just had a doe birth her second set. Both were born dead and hairless. Any suggestions on what happened?
     
  14. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    You may want to start your own thread so more people see it. This is a really old thread so people may not respond.

    Having a necropsy done would be a good way to find out what was wrong.
     
  15. sweetgoats

    sweetgoats Moderator

    Oct 18, 2007
    Peyton CO.
    Some cats carry ??????????. Dang I forgot the name of it, i am sure someone will chime in. If they have it and they poop/pee on the hay, it can be transferred to the doe and it causes the abortion abut also horrible deformed babies.

    Here it is.

    Toxoplasmosis is an infection caused by a parasite called Toxoplasma gondii (T. gondii). This parasite is carried by cats and is present in its feces.