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2 weeks ago I gave my 2 pregnant goats a CDT vaccine. I'm nervous with needles and I really had to work up my courage to do this. First doe went great. Then I went to do goat #2 and I could barely pinch up any skin also her hair was so thick I could barely see what I was doing. It felt like I couldn't get the needle through her skin all the way. I ended up panicking and had to poke her about 5 times and finally got the needle in her, it didn't feel like it was all the way in but the vaccine went in so I figured it was okay. I checked for abscesses for the next couple days but didn't see any so again I thought I was fine.

Today I was petting doe #1 and felt a little bit of unevenness under her skin were I gave the shot. It was long and not very noticeable at all. Almost felt like a rib if I wasn't paying close attention. So I decided to check doe #2 who is a little more standoffish anyways. She had a huge scab and raised bump where I did the injection.

The wound doesn't seem to be infected, if it is puss then it is deep inside the lump. It was completely scabbed over until I tried inspecting it. I have treated it with betadine. Is there anything else I should do other than keeping an eye on it? She's acting normally but she's due to kid in 2 weeks so I'm extra stressed about it.

Also, has anyone ever had a hard time getting a needle through a particular goats skin? I plan to shave the area before trying next year but any other advice would be greatly appreciated.
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2 weeks ago I gave my 2 pregnant goats a CDT vaccine. I'm nervous with needles and I really had to work up my courage to do this. First doe went great. Then I went to do goat #2 and I could barely pinch up any skin also her hair was so thick I could barely see what I was doing. It felt like I couldn't get the needle through her skin all the way. I ended up panicking and had to poke her about 5 times and finally got the needle in her, it didn't feel like it was all the way in but the vaccine went in so I figured it was okay. I checked for abscesses for the next couple days but didn't see any so again I thought I was fine.

Today I was petting doe #1 and felt a little bit of unevenness under her skin were I gave the shot. It was long and not very noticeable at all. Almost felt like a rib if I wasn't paying close attention. So I decided to check doe #2 who is a little more standoffish anyways. She had a huge scab and raised bump where I did the injection.

The wound doesn't seem to be infected, if it is puss then it is deep inside the lump. It was completely scabbed over until I tried inspecting it. I have treated it with betadine. Is there anything else I should do other than keeping an eye on it? She's acting normally but she's due to kid in 2 weeks so I'm extra stressed about it.

Also, has anyone ever had a hard time getting a needle through a particular goats skin? I plan to shave the area before trying next year but any other advice would be greatly appreciated. View attachment 196213 View attachment 196215 View attachment 196217
it should be just fine left alone. Knots happen sometimes with it. Just keep an eye on it and if it tuptures clean and take care of it then. The knot may go away, it may not compleyely go away or it may stay the same size then one day poof gone. You didntdo anything wrong.
As far as the stick goes.... make sure to use a new needle every goat. They can dull fast and with you sticking five times it may have just been a bad needle to start with. The longer part of the point should be against the skin with the bevel outward. Makes it easier to stick that way.
 

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Thank you. That makes me feel much better!

I should have mentioned I did use a different/new needle on the second goat. I have also read, since then, to use a different needle when collecting the vaccine into the plunger. I will try that next time as well.

it should be just fine left alone. Knots happen sometimes with it. Just keep an eye on it and if it tuptures clean and take care of it then. The knot may go away, it may not compleyely go away or it may stay the same size then one day poof gone. You didntdo anything wrong.
As far as the stick goes.... make sure to use a new needle every goat. They can dull fast and with you sticking five times it may have just been a bad needle to start with. The longer part of the point should be against the skin with the bevel outward. Makes it easier to stick that way.
 

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I've had problems with CD+T shots causing lumps when given SQ. I know that's how everyone does it, but I've actually gotten away from giving that particular shot SQ and I'm back to doing it IM like I did when I got my first goat and "didn't know better." My vet gave it IM in the neck muscle just like a horse so I followed suit and for years there was never a lump or sore spot.

I eventually learned that most people don't do it that way so I switched to SQ and started seeing abscesses. I have packgoats so getting a lump anywhere near the girth or shoulder (where all the nice loose skin is!) can interfere with the saddle or breastcollar. And those lumps sometimes take a darned long time to go away! I switched back vaccinating IM two years ago and none of my goats got abscesses--even the babies. I felt around carefully at the injection sites over the following weeks to see if there were any abscesses deeper in the tissue and there was nothing. It's not like goats have very thick muscles so I think if there were any deep tissue abscesses I would have felt them, and there were no tender spots either.

So although it's not conventional, I recommend trying the IM route and see if you have better luck. I also find that it's easier to get the injection into the animal as opposed to poking all the way through and squirting it on your hand! The good news is that these lumps do eventually go away by themselves. You don't need to drain them or anything.
 

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CD&T vaccine abscesses do not bother me, no harm.
I will always give it SQ as indicated on the label.

If the abscess gets too big, I will lance them, however, mostly all of the time, they resolve on their own.

I always give the shot in the armpit area so I know where I gave it. ;)
 
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