Cl or no?

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by Noisy Bottle Babies, Jul 13, 2020.

  1. Noisy Bottle Babies

    Noisy Bottle Babies Well-Known Member

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    Oct 7, 2019
    Galesville,WI
    So we bought these does that were already confirmed bred to a 100% registered buck and they were all vaccinated for cl but now one at the ingection spot right behind the shoulder is balding like cl so my question is cl or no?
     

  2. Sfgwife

    Sfgwife Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2018
    North Cakalaki
  3. Noisy Bottle Babies

    Noisy Bottle Babies Well-Known Member

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    Oct 7, 2019
    Galesville,WI
    The problem we have is she's one of the hardest ones to catch and we really have no place to block her off from the others as we ripped apart our pens because of cl
     
  4. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    Any abscess will bald, not just a CL abscess.

    Find a way to set up a temporary pen and get her in it. Wood pallets, horse trailers, welded wire panels are all quick & easy ways. For the spookiest goats, it's easiest to run the whole herd into the holding stall/pen then let out the ones you don't need one by one. You gotta get that thing lanced & tested.
     
  5. Noisy Bottle Babies

    Noisy Bottle Babies Well-Known Member

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    Oct 7, 2019
    Galesville,WI
    We contacted the seller he said that the access from the vaccinations will pop just like cl but its not contagious he's only had one goat with cl on his dark before he started vaccinating so I guess it was just my worrying over cl as I've never had CL vaccinations until this year
     
  6. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    So... he had one goat that had active CL abscess and then he tested his whole herd then vaccinated? Or he had one goat that had active CL abscess and so he vaccinated his entire herd without knowing if any others were positive?

    If she was a CL positive goat, and he vaccinated her, that doesn't mean she won't spread CL all over your property. He may not understand the limitations of the vaccine. The stress of moving/purchasing/integrating to a new herd is a prime example of the time a CL positive goat that has never abscessed before will abscess.

    Any type of abscess will lose fur, & pop, and any type of vaccination can cause an abscess. It could totally be a vaccine abscess but if your goal is a clean herd, I would recommend testing.

    WADDL charges $45 to test the pus.
     
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  7. Noisy Bottle Babies

    Noisy Bottle Babies Well-Known Member

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    Oct 7, 2019
    Galesville,WI
    He tested them all before hand then culled and vaccinated all his current goats, they had the CL vaccine access right behind the shoulder where he shot them one has already popped that we didn't notice but no other signs of bumps in anyone else
     
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  8. Noisy Bottle Babies

    Noisy Bottle Babies Well-Known Member

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    Oct 7, 2019
    Galesville,WI
    All our goats are tested this year and vaccinated but we did a bump test today and the only ones that have bumps are the ones vaccinated with cl
     
  9. CountyLineAcres

    CountyLineAcres Well-Known Member

    Jan 22, 2014
    Mineral Ridge, Ohio
    I’d get it tested. CL vaccinated herds still get CL.

    Keep in mind that all of those vaccinated goats can still have abscesses show up - even years down the road.
     
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  10. Noisy Bottle Babies

    Noisy Bottle Babies Well-Known Member

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    Oct 7, 2019
    Galesville,WI
    Won't the test come back positive all the time ?
     
  11. CountyLineAcres

    CountyLineAcres Well-Known Member

    Jan 22, 2014
    Mineral Ridge, Ohio
    Lance and test the puss. That will not test positive if it isn’t CL.
     
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  12. Noisy Bottle Babies

    Noisy Bottle Babies Well-Known Member

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    Oct 7, 2019
    Galesville,WI
    Ok good to know thank you!
     
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  13. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    Right the blood test would come back positive for a year or more but the pus test will tell you the true disease status!
     
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  14. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California