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Sometimes you have to offer a new "food" more than once before a goat will try it. Apple slices; one of mine loved them right off the bat, two sniffed, turned and walked away. Next time, one was mighty curious about the food the other was obviously enjoying, tried a slice, liked it. The third couldn't stand the thought of the others having something he didn't, tried a piece and yum. This does not always work though, mine still won't eat animal crackers no matter how many times it's offered. Offer them a few more times before giving up and see if that works. All else fails, crush them up until powdery and drench them.
 

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I first give some baking soda/water drench.

Straddle over the goat facing her head.
Hold her head slightly up, not too high, more level, yet slightly up and squirt a little bit in, at the back corner of her mouth.
She will fight and may thrash her head, just try to hold her head level to very slightly up as she does this. So she does not spit it out. Be careful and not to get hurt.
Give a little at a time, until you give her the whole thing.
Then follow up with water to drench down the gel which just sticks there, so it helps relieve her and has less burn feel. Do 2 to 3 of them, with the huge syringe, do it slowly.

If she begins to cough, stop until she stops. Then continue. You don't want to give it too fast or allow her to inhale some and get it into her lungs. So be careful and patient.

Hope this makes sense. ;)
 

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Thank you Pam. How much baking soda & how much water in the drench? She's about 60 lb.

I have a 300cc tube of CMPK gel, how much to the goat, like 5ml? and should I shoot it in straight from the big tube or... ? probably better to measure it into another syringe I'm thinking.
On the follow up water, I have a 50cc feeding syringe with the metal tip that goes in their throat. I'm thinking you mean like 50cc of water 2X?
 

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I get a different syringe and put it into it from the big tube.

For dosage maybe 15 to 30 cc's, once or 2 x a day. Depending on severity.
It is hard to say without seeing the goat in person.
Sometimes giving CMPK 1 x straightens them up. If she gets better there is no need to continue unless she is showing symptoms then as I mentioned, could be 1 to 2 x a day or as needed.

Feeding alfalfa hay helps calcium levels.

Baking soda, 3 cc's to the rest water in a 12 cc's syringe. Drench slowly.

On the follow up water, yes, 50cc of water 2X. Do it slowly as well.

Also clean any off around her mouth, with a wet cloth.
 

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Thank you Pam. I've put this all into a document on how to give CMPK orally so I have it, very useful.

I have confusion now as to whether CMPK is needed by her. Her labs showed "low normal calcium". She has not the symptoms of hypocalcemia of lower appetite, subnormal temp, constipation or decreased rumination. I am making sure she continues to eat alfalfa, which is their primary feed. She has been inclined to a slight fever, eating okay, nursing kids okay. I just don't know that I need to put her through this procedure.

It was quite hot here yesterday and she had a higher temperature and lethargic, so the vet said to give her Banamine, and she was feeling better within the hour.
Today it's cooler and she's still doing better, though not normal.

The other day it seemed her legs were tired/sore in coming up stairs to the upper pen, but that went away. Her symptoms come and go.

She has had 2 doses of Excede antibiotic for a unidentified infection, due to her higher temps, 104.2-104.9. Her exams 2X in the last week have been good, other than she is much more docile than normal. She's nursing the 5-week-old kids well. Puzzling. I am giving her some Calcium gummies - not positive she's eating them yet, but I think so.
 

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You are welcome.

It doesn't sound like she needs CMPK, no.

Giving alfalfa, is good.

Slight fever? Even if the weather is hot, she should be in the normal range, unless in the direct sun, running prior to taking her temp.

Just giving banamine masks the issue.
But it is strange, she has already been treated with an antibiotic, yet she is still not well.

Have you rebuilt her rumen?
Probiotics and fortified vit B complex SQ for 4 days.

Check her inner lower eyelid coloring.

Do you have any white tail deer around? Is it her rear legs that seem weak?
 

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Her temp is back to normal, 103.2. I agree she doesn't need CMPK.
Rebuilding Rumen: She's been getting probiotics almost daily. When she 1st got symptoms we thought she had mild goat polio and she got many Fortified Vit B complex injections. She hasn't had any since 7/5.
Her inner eyelids have been fine.
I started her on Replamins.
Legs, sometimes she just seems generally weak/tired when coming up the goat stairs from one pen to another. Other times not. Sometimes favors her right front leg (I could find nothing wrong with it or hoof). Symptoms come and go.
White tail deer are not native to California.

Currently, her temp is normal but she is still very docile and rather slow. Her normal self is skittish and fast. Yesterday she was laying down in her shed and I could take her temp. with her lying down. This is so unlike her. I describe her as generally depressed, but with good appetite, nursing kids well. Low activity level. The vet has no idea what's wrong with her. One of her ear tips got scraped and is all crusty. I cleaned it yesterday & applied NuStock to it.
On 6/23 she started out with a whole different set of symptoms which led us to think she may have mild goat polio.
On 7/11-13 she was treated with Safeguard for worms found on fecal.
On 7/12 she got 2nd shot of Excede antiobiotic. Her fever spike was 7/15.
Symptoms have changed now to a low energy, very docile goat with no diagnosis. But at least I don't feel like I'm losing her!
 

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Give fortified vit B complex SQ.
6 cc's per 100 lbs SQ daily 2 x a day, for a while.
Probiotics 1 x a day.

Give nutradrench as directed on label for goats for a few days, will also help with energy. Don't give too long, as it burns the throat.

Does she have mineral deficiency signs?

Some here swear by garlic, that may help too. Look up some of the threads on it.

Her immunity may be down.
 

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Thanks Pam. Her coat is good. Her eyelids are good. Is there another sign of mineral deficiency to look for? I've already started her on Replamins.
Tell-tale tail. Does she have a fishtail or turned down tail? Photo of her tail could help us or you can google and search the forum for reference.
 
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