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Coccidia conundrum- Stay natural/Go chemical

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I performed a fecal on my goats a few weeks ago and suspected high coccidia but since I wasn’t sure what I was seeing, sent a sample to MeadowMist to confirm. They did but it took a while because of shipping delays. I’ve been treating them with a modified Tummy Tamer recipe, probiotics, and a weekly herbal wormer schedule.

Now with more confidence that I was correctly identifying coccidia and with my one problem pooper back to healthy pellets, I performed another fecal analysis. She had an 83% reduction in coccidia, and the other two who were not nearly as burdened as she was, also saw significant decreases.

Do I keep doing what I’m doing since it seems to be working? And if so, is it okay to add in essential oils (I was thinking of orange, oregano, clove, and cinnamon) 3 times a week as a boost?

Or should I be treating them with SulfaMed? That’s what I have on hand.
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If the herbs are working there is no reason to change. Adding the essential oils should boost the effectiveness as well. Go team herbs!
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Thank you! You and others here talked me through what to give while I waited (even if not always directly, I read a lot of old threads, too). I was so happy when her poop turned normal again and then when her coccidia count plummeted, I was almost in disbelief. I’m kind of glad there was a delay in the shipping so the herbs had time to work.
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And don’t get me wrong, I’ll keep checking the fecals and treat chemically if warranted.

Can I mix the EOs together? Like have more than one in the olive oil when I drench (as long as I compensate with more oil per drop)? And I read somewhere you can use coconut oil. Is that ok? Or stick with olive oil?
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Good job!!..yes stick with what's working. On the eos..yes you can mix the eos together in one dose diluted with olive oil. I mix one drop of 3-4 eo each in 3 cc olive oil.
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Thank you! You were one of the ones I leaned on for information. All your replies to me and others were very helpful. So one drop per EO and then add 3 ccs of olive oil total? Or 3 ccs of olive oil per drop? Just want to make sure I’m getting it right.
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3 cc olive oil total. Now if you give a hot oil like Cinnamon..may need more dilution 😉
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Ok. Thank you so much.
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It sounds as if you are doing the right things. Years ago we had a serious cocci problem and were losing kids. We were on the brink of using chemicals when I came across this recipe.
To one quart of boiling water add:
4 teaspoon ginger
4 teaspoon cloves
4 teaspoon slippery elm bark
2 teaspoon cinnamon
Steep 20 minutes
Give 6-10 CC 2 times a day

This saved our herd. We brought kids back from the brink with this.
Just my thoughts. Best of luck.
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I think of chemical dewormers as a last resort, if the herbs are not working. If you use them less frequently, the chemical products will work quickly and effectively, as the worms will have little resistance to them. At least, that has been my experience so far.
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I should have added; strain the concoction before using. With bottle babies I mixed it in their milk. For adults I had to drench.
After that I started adding whole cloves and garlic to their grain. Once a month, for three days, I would mix in wormwood. We never had a serious serious parasite outbreak again.
I did not give wormwood to pregnant does.
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If you use ALL the methods illustrated in this comprehensive post, absolutely you can take care of it naturally: Preventing & Treating Coccidiosis in Goats
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It sounds as if you are doing the right things. Years ago we had a serious cocci problem and were losing kids. We were on the brink of using chemicals when I came across this recipe.
To one quart of boiling water add:
4 teaspoon ginger
4 teaspoon cloves
4 teaspoon slippery elm bark
2 teaspoon cinnamon
Steep 20 minutes
Give 6-10 CC 2 times a day

This saved our herd. We brought kids back from the brink with this.
Just my thoughts. Best of luck.
Thank you! I used something close to this but not exactly. I’ll definitely add this recipe to my goat folder.

I think of chemical dewormers as a last resort, if the herbs are not working. If you use them less frequently, the chemical products will work quickly and effectively, as the worms will have little resistance to them. At least, that has been my experience so far.
That is what I’m hoping. When I need them, I will use them and hopefully they’ll work like a charm because there should be little to no resistance in any parasite. In the meantime, do the best I can with natural methods.

If you use ALL the methods illustrated in this comprehensive post, absolutely you can take care of it naturally: Preventing & Treating Coccidiosis in Goats
I love this link. I have it book marked already (a long with a lot more the site) but will read it again to make sure I get things right.


I know this is going to sound bad, but I was hoping for the best and expecting the worst when it came to using the herbs, garlic, and natural methods. I was basically doing it as supportive care until the results came back and I had confirmation on what to treat. Then it ended up being a lot more than just supportive. I sort of couldn’t believe it. I’d heard a lot about natural methods but I figured you must just really have to know what you’re doing to have it work. But no, I’m proof idiots can do it too. At least we can with guidance from nice folks here.

And I don’t know if I’m out of the woods or not. I’ll do weekly fecals for a while until I’m comfortable that the counts are either declining or steady.
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Sounds like a plan. You are doing a great job!
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I bought LOH when she used to send it in a baggie lol...I was like you..doubtful it would work. I piddled with it but was too afraid of loosing goats due to worms so I still did chemical treatments. One day I found that baggie of herbs stuffed way back and I just threw it away lol.
Now many years later..I won't allow myself to run out. It has been heaven sent. It's hard to wrap our brain around a bag full of spices keeping our goats healthy. I used to run a pretty large emergency group on FB. One thing we ran into alot were late night emergencies..and I have helped people keep their goats alive until morning with spices they had in the kitchen. 😉
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I bought LOH when she used to send it in a baggie lol...I was like you..doubtful it would work. I piddled with it but was too afraid of loosing goats due to worms so I still did chemical treatments. One day I found that baggie of herbs stuffed way back and I just threw it away lol.
Now many years later..I won't allow myself to run out. It has been heaven sent. It's hard to wrap our brain around a bag full of spices keeping our goats healthy. I used to run a pretty large emergency group on FB. One thing we ran into alot were late night emergencies..and I have helped people keep their goats alive until morning with spices they had in the kitchen. 😉
Question - was your group partnered with Nadene Reynolds?
I love this link. I have it book marked already (a long with a lot more the site) but will read it again to make sure I get things right.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it and put a lot of hard work into my site!
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Sounds like a plan. You are doing a great job!
Thanks! And thanks for all your help.

I bought LOH when she used to send it in a baggie lol...I was like you..doubtful it would work. I piddled with it but was too afraid of loosing goats due to worms so I still did chemical treatments. One day I found that baggie of herbs stuffed way back and I just threw it away lol.
Now many years later..I won't allow myself to run out. It has been heaven sent. It's hard to wrap our brain around a bag full of spices keeping our goats healthy. I used to run a pretty large emergency group on FB. One thing we ran into alot were late night emergencies..and I have helped people keep their goats alive until morning with spices they had in the kitchen.
Oh wow, that’s awesome. And now I believe it, lol. I’m always so skeptical about things, so now I have a whole new outlook and thirst for knowledge on all this. If I hadn’t had this little debacle early on, I’m not sure how long it would have taken me to actually use natural remedies as treatment. I planned on it being more as a supplement if you will. It was the last thing I looked into before getting the goats and ended up being the first thing I actually needed.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it and put a lot of hard work into my site!
Your work shows and it has been a life saver for me and I’m sure countless others you’ll never even know about. Thank you for sharing all your knowledge!
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Thanks! And thanks for all your help.


Oh wow, that’s awesome. And now I believe it, lol. I’m always so skeptical about things, so now I have a whole new outlook and thirst for knowledge on all this. If I hadn’t had this little debacle early on, I’m not sure how long it would have taken me to actually use natural remedies as treatment. I planned on it being more as a supplement if you will. It was the last thing I looked into before getting the goats and ended up being the first thing I actually needed.
Your work shows and it has been a life saver for me and I’m sure countless others you’ll never even know about. Thank you for sharing all your knowledge!
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