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My 6 month old goat was surgically castrated at TAMU 5/2, several injections given, not sure what all was given and where but know there was a sedation injection, reversal injection, pain injection, and CDT given, I don't know where all these injections were given. about a week to 2 weeks later I noticed a lump on right side of neck. Yesterday the abscess burst before I could lance it. When I went to clean it I could squeeze out mostly a purulent liquid with a few bits of yogurt consistency stuff, all a creamy color, followed by blood. The abscess capsule is still hard with a distinct hole and inside I can see a flap of something whitish. The location does not seem to be a normal CL location. Any opinions if this is related to medication injections or CL? Can I insert a sterile swab to send for culture or is it too late? Is there anything I should give him or do? Antibiotics, etc? He is currently quarantined just in case. I took a sample to send for culturing today and cleaned it out with chlorhexidine solution, a chunk came out of it, cream colored and about the size and consistency of a piece of cottage cheese, then applied silver sulfadine to it. I'm used to abscesses having a thick liquid that is cleaned and drains from them, but this one does have some chunks to it, but nothing like I've looked up for normal CL abscesses. I am worried it could be CL although is it not fully presenting like CL. I also took a sample and applied it to a microscope slide and stained it, I didn't really see any bacteria like normally seen with CL (Corynebacterium pseudotuberculosis).
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I’m not sure if that’s enough pus to test hopefully someone will chime in or you can call your vet and ask them. The few abscesses I had a vet was the one to send it off. Also I guess you could call the lab, they would probably know too.
But my vote is total injection abscess. I would keep him in where he’s at say from the others just to be safe, see if you can send that sample in and if not just keep him there till he’s healed and then let out. Keep a eye on him for any more abscesses. But honestly it sure looks like it’s from a injection I just like to be on the side of caution personally
 

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I agree with Jessica84. That looks like an injection abscess to me, too.
I would clip the hair away, clean it well and put an antibacterial ointment on it. After it starts to heal, maybe spray with Blue Côte and make sure flies do not bother it.

He is a cute little guy!
 

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Thank ya'll for your opinions, I've been on my own with this so I wasn't sure which way I should swing... With it being a long holiday weekend there was no one to call, and it would be healing before I take him somewhere to have it looked at or a sample taken. I'm used to cleaning abscesses on dogs and cats, and they don't usually have a thickened area surrounding the abscess, so I was more worried about CL even tho the location didn't seem right. And he's a lot cuter when I'm not freaking him out, lol.
 

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Abscesses need to be kept open so they can heal from the inside out. Make sure all of the pus is out before you let it close up or it won't heal. You can pack it with a little piece of gauze or re-open it if it heals up too soon.
 

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Abscesses need to be kept open so they can heal from the inside out. Make sure all of the pus is out before you let it close up or it won't heal. You can pack it with a little piece of gauze or re-open it if it heals up too soon.
I have been peeling off the scab and rinsing it out daily with chlorhexidine solution and ceragyn spray using a curved tip syringe and then applying a little bit of silver sulfadine to it. I could probably do it twice a day if it needs more. I currently don't have any blue kote spray or anything and will pick some up to prevent flies, etc, altho it doesn't look like flies are getting to it, I'm surprised we don't have a worse fly problem actually considering I am near Houston, TX and hot as hell. I was pondering putting a drop of LA-200 on a cotton swab and rubbing it in there, what do ya'll think?
 

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I wouldn’t. La200 is pretty sticky and sticky means poo and nasty will get on/ in it and could cause a infection. I think what your doing is just fine. If it makes you feel any better my cows get abscess every once in awhile and I’ve landed, drained and then sprayed cut heal on it and left them be and they have healed just fine
 

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The chlorhexidine is caustic and could slow down healing. I think saline, plain water, or maybe a weak iodine solution would be better.
 

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With vaccine abscesses, just get all the goo out, clean it up, flush it well with iodine. You can follow up the next day to ensure no more goo is coming out of it. Then just spray on blue cote daily, until it scabs over.
Try too keep the flies off of it.
 
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