This is ping :wink: The kicker with ping is that I never saw the breeding and never caught her in heat. (kept buck with doe's) :doh: The only thing I did see was a messy tail (dried wet stuff) so I wrote that day down on the calendar and I'm using that as my breeding date. She may be more like Day 134 though so I'm watching her close. Oh and she's a FF two year old. She was supposed to be bred when we bought her as a yearling, but nope we got the raw end on that and she was open. We never caught her in heat so I was a little worried that she had something wrong with her and thats why she didn't settle as a yearling, but then this udder came along and she's getting a second chance. :laugh: She got a hair cut and I took some pics.