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Merry Oaks Sunflower. She is a two year old FF and we are planning to show her so I wondered what your thoughts were. Thanks, Meg
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Pros:
Good length of body
Long lean dairy neck
Long rump
Nice angulation in rear legs
Straight front legs
Neck blends well into what brisket she has
Thurls look good
Correct bite

Cons:
Neck could blend better into the withers
Could use more brisket
Chest floor could blend better into the girth
Steep rump
Could stand more uphill
Could use a bit more depth

I feel like I'm forgetting stuff :roll: :lol:

For her udder:
Good fore attachments
Nice sized teats
Teat placement isn't too bad
Could use more capacity

I'd like to see a better picture of her udder to see rear attachments, and front and back shots to judge width through the hips, pins, etc.
 

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Pros:
Good length of body
Long lean dairy neck
Long rump
Nice angulation in rear legs
Straight front legs
Neck blends well into what brisket she has
Thurls look good
Correct bite

Cons:
Neck could blend better into the withers
Could use more brisket
Chest floor could blend better into the girth
Steep rump
Could stand more uphill
Could use a bit more depth

I feel like I'm forgetting stuff :roll: :lol:

For her udder:
Good fore attachments
Nice sized teats
Teat placement isn't too bad
Could use more capacity

I'd like to see a better picture of her udder to see rear attachments, and front and back shots to judge width through the hips, pins, etc.
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This doe is fairly long, has tall legs, and nice rear leg angulation. She stands strongly on her legs, and has nice body capacity. Her withers are sharp, but I would like to see much better blending from her neck to her withers. Her neck is long and looks like it blends nicely into her chest, but more brisket extension would be nice. Her rump is long, but I would like to see it more level. I would like to see her topline a bit more level, but in the showring you can pinch down her loin to make it appear level. I would like to see her shoulders a bit tighter and stronger pasterns as well. She could use more femininity. Her bight looks nice and she has a pretty head, which is a plus. I would like to see her chest floor blend into her girth area, bit it's not too bad. She is fairly uphill and would look more so if her neck blended better into her withers.
Her udder has nice teat placement and size. I would like to see better rear attatchments and more capacity, though. Fore udder attatchments and blending look good. Medial looks good. Her udder is a bit lopsided, but not unusual for FF.
 

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I'll just add that

Cons:
Her withers are way to sharp
She is definitely lacking depth and capacity
Her neck need to blend more smoothly into her withers
Her udder is a bit lopsided, looks like
She could blend a little better from the chest floor into the heart girth

Pros:
Her pasterns are pretty good, but they could be a little stronger
Lots of dairy character
Feminine head
Nice long bone pattern throughout

Sorry to add so many cons, I'm not trying to sound harsh, just tellin' it like I see it. ;) Hope you don't mind.
She reminds me a lot of one of our does. :)
 

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I wouldn't say her withers are too sharp.. With some extra weight (she looks too thin) and a better blended neck, they would look more like the typical withers of a champion dairy goat, IMO.
 

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Yes, you're probably right. I noticed she was to, but I didn't really think how having more weight would change her withers. ;)
I will say our doe that look a lot like this one- her withers are still really pointy even when she's a good weight.
 

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I'm just thinking maybe if she had more weight, you wouldn't see all the 'lumps and bumps' of the spine. But if you just imagine her neck being better blended, her withers wouldn't looks so pointy.
 

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Thanks everyone. This is really helpful. Texaslass i don't mind at all.
 

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We don't have time to try to get her to put more weight on before the show which is the 25th but i started her on calf manna.
 

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I'll get more pics before i milk her tomorrow.
 

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Let us know how she does at the show! ;)
 

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Here are some more pics, let me know if i need to get better ones.
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Her legs are actually too sickle for my taste honestly, but part of that is her thurls are too far back. She's hard over the top and while placing her legs, just loin her and that'll make her rump pop right up. She's a good family milker. Nice teats, promise for the future. You can tell you don't push this girl, so you'll have years left on her. Her udder looks as if she's drying off, and I can't wait to see the changes as she matures and grows into herself.
 

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I didn't know hips and pins could be too wide?
 

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I didn't know hips and pins could be too wide?
Same here... Width is a good thing! I love seeing width throughout! And lots of it! Less kidding problems too :)
 

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:shrug: I'm just *trying* to do as Lacie does. :p I'm not entirely certain her pins are too wide, but I'm pretty sure they are. Idk if that's really bad or not, but they do look a little too wide to me. :shrug:
Now, I do still say her hips are a *little* too wide. ;)
Still learning here, so bear that in mind. :D
 

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