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I noticed Nyx's coat started looking a bit wavy on/about 14 August. Their last copper bolus was on 7 August, I gave them one capsule each of the Ultra Cruz. Prior to that, they had one on 12 April. It had been about 4 months and her sister's coloring was a bit faded, Nyx was starting to fade. No other symptoms to cause the bolus.

Not much has changed, western PA is going through a hot and humid summer. I was out of town for the first time for 2 nights 11-13 August, but my Mother stayed and took care of them and they are familiar with her, so don't think they were too stressed. We did get new hay, it was from same farmer that we always get from and it was from same 2nd cut stack, since he did not have any 2nd cut yet from this year. They love the hay, I think he said it was a grass mix. Girls LOVE it. They also get leaves and other forage on our daily walks and have access to a nearly 1 acre pasture. And free choice Manna Pro minerals.

They are both eating well, playing, going for daily walks, eyes look good - nothing out of ordinary except for coat. I did look on the other year's goat log and saw she started getting her winter coat around September. Right now she looks like she was freshly bathed. I brush them a couple times a day, we all enjoy it, so why not! Not a lot of hair is coming out of her right now.

I was reading up and thought, let's try a couple things. I have one of the horse hydrater (I have a well water with a softner and don't see any typical signs of hard water, but hey, could be an issue) so I've been using that on their water. They don't seem to be sucking it down any more/faster than before. But I can keep using it.

I also gave them 1 50 mg (I believe it was mg, I got a human zinc pill and one is the recommended dosage from here) of zinc.

The first picture of the two in the woods was taken 14 August. Nyx is the one on the right, with the dot on her side, looking to the right. Her coat looks summer fine.

The other couple were from 20 August. Again, she's the one with the more brown on her neck and the dot. I included one of her sister to show the big difference between the two of them.

Am I missing something? I do have the replemin, I think, if you think it could be a selenium issue? Again, no other issues except for the coat, but don't want to wait if I should be doing something else!

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I have a doe that had some sort of strange coat waviness that I could not identify the cause of. I tried all sorts of things and what finally work for her was wheat germ oil. One teaspoon daily and it took only a few weeks to see improvement. She is sooo shiny now. I can't even believe the difference. Her problem must have been a vitamin deficiency not mineral.

That being said, it may still be too early to see improvement from the copper. How much would you say your does weigh? If you just gave her one four gram bolus that may not actually be enough for her. Dosage for copper is 1g per 22lbs.

It doesn't really look like Zinc deficiency to me. That usually comes with flaky/dandruffy skin and thinning hair.

As far as selenium goes, how do her pasterns look? Does she stand tall on her feet? Do her legs look nice and straight? Does her tail flop over or look bent at the tip? These are things I look at for selenium.
 

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I might have under-dosed, I tend to do that more than I should, thinking I'm erring on the side of caution. I have to tape them again, it's been a couple months, but last time she was around 185-190. They are twins, about 3 years old now.

Vet was out on 7 June to get annual shots, hoof trim, and check a problem area on the other girl. Vet didn't see any issues other than Nyx could lose some weight, so we cut back the grain (once a day) to 1/2 cup Purina Grower. They are pets only, never been bred.

I took advantage of the last cool day here, 15 August, to do their hooves. They both have a problem hoof we are working on growing out, but no limping - walks, runs, climbs on stuff with no issues.

Yeah, no flakey hair, maybe saw a couple flakes of dandruff, but nothing like I've seen on some of these posts. I try to keep an eye on what other's have a problem with, so I can spot it in mine early!

I'm going to try and keep an eye on her tail closer, she may have it down more, but I know it's not all the time, I'd definitely notice that.

Her coat is super soft, literally what a washed dog would look like when they finally dry!

Thanks for the input and advise. Do you have the brand of the wheat germ oil? Where'd you buy it, how much is recommended, and did you put it on top of grain or give orally?

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I'm going to try and keep an eye on her tail closer, she may have it down more, but I know it's not all the time, I'd definitely notice that.
What you are looking for with the selenium tail is the to look like it has a crook in it, like if you bent you finger just at the first knuckle. This is not that reliable for judging selenium deficiency so I wouldn't go on that alone.

Thanks for the input and advise. Do you have the brand of the wheat germ oil? Where'd you buy it, how much is recommended, and did you put it on top of grain or give orally?
Brand does not matter. You just want pure wheat germ oil, not a blend. I got mine from Valley Vet Supply. I add a teaspoon mixed into her grain everyday. It's such a small amount that my doe doesn't even notice that it's there.
 

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Oh wow, she looks great - thanks for sharing! No crook in her tail. But I'll definitely try the wheat germ oil.

Seems like there's nothing obvious that I'm missing on Nyx right now? I'll tape her and see what she weighs and maybe give another bolus here in a couple weeks.

Getting ready to take them for our daily walk in the woods, yesterday there was a big buck that was eyeballing us, so we didn't go in too far. Earlier in the week it was a bear that came up by the pasture. Let's just say we are venturing out again slowly!

Thanks!
 

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Getting ready to take them for our daily walk in the woods, yesterday there was a big buck that was eyeballing us, so we didn't go in too far. Earlier in the week it was a bear that came up by the pasture. Let's just say we are venturing out again slowly!

Thanks!
Wow, a bear! We supposedly have bears in our area, but I've never seen one.
 

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Wow, a bear! We supposedly have bears in our area, but I've never seen one.
Look by the white bucket and you'll see the monster! I went to go out and saw him walking the fence line behind the chicks! I yelled, he ran away and thankfully haven't seen him again. It seems like he comes by once a year, last time it was in the am and only saw on the doorbell camera. Very scary! Next day the one chicken got grabbed by a hawk but somehow escaped - she's a VERY lucky girl!
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