Deadly disease going through my herd

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by Noisy Bottle Babies, Nov 5, 2020.

  1. Noisy Bottle Babies

    Noisy Bottle Babies Well-Known Member

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    Oct 7, 2019
    Galesville,WI
    About 3 days after birth she went down
     
  2. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    At 3 days old i would not think parasites. Bacterial seems more likely. A few other things that kill baby quickly is not getting enough milk...too much milk..not pooping. Usually these are isolated events. What color were babies scours?
     

  3. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    Color and smell of scours can help us know what might be going on.
     
  4. Noisy Bottle Babies

    Noisy Bottle Babies Well-Known Member

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    Oct 7, 2019
    Galesville,WI
    Black all the goats had black diarrhea and I can’t say what it smelled like but similar to what comes out after they die
     
  5. happybleats

    happybleats Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2010
    Gustine Texas
    Two things pop in my mind, Enterotoxemia or salmonellosis. (salmonella is zoonotic, wear gloves just in case)Both can cause black poop and fast death. Entero I would think would kill a baby much faster than a few days, but again, your treatment may have slowed that? Salmonellosis is less likely to cause death in adult goats but can happen. These are just guesses. There is no real way to know for sure whats going on. I would go ahead and do the fecals on your herd. Since vets are far away, maybe call and talk with one, see what they think. If any one else gets sick..I would give cd antitoxin and or Milk of magnesia and a quality electrolyte. Banamine for pain, if temps are not sub. Ill find you a link on Salmonella for more info.
     
  6. MadHouse

    MadHouse Well-Known Member

    I am so sorry this is happening and hope you find the cause soon!
    :hug:
     
  7. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
  8. Moers kiko boars

    Moers kiko boars Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2018
    Oklahoma
    I went to my books from college..here are some pages I thought you could read and give you some help. Maybe one of them will fit the problem.
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    Hope this helps
     
  9. Nicholas

    Nicholas New Member

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    Nov 2, 2020
    California
    Mycoplasma got into my herd and we lost 3 kids less than 2 months. Had to put down 3 does and 2 bucks. Do you have a state lab? I sent one of the kids to my lab at UC Davis for necropsy. They tested for everything and found micoplasma in its joints.
    Swollen joints, swollen throat, staggers, fever, can't eat or drink, a horrible death.
    It is passed in milk from infected nursing does. But we think it was passed by semen from an outside infected buck. Several types of this disease, some types extremely contagious. Ours was relatively mild. Our vet has seen it on cow dairies. Was a big problem back in the 80's on big goats dairies. 90% death of kids.
    My lab tests ear swabs and milk samples. I hear that other labs test nasal swabs.
    There is no cure or vaccine for this disease. Testing, isolation, culling, pasteurized milk and colostrum, are the only preventive measures to prevent its spread.

    W
     
  10. Nicholas

    Nicholas New Member

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    Nov 2, 2020
    California
    Forgot to add that chronic mastitis is a symptom in milking does.
     
  11. Nicholas

    Nicholas New Member

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    Nov 2, 2020
    California
    Milk and ear swabs are easy to take. Get swabs and 3ml sterile sample tubes from your vet. The ear swabs are not temperature sensitive; i send them US postal as they are the cheapest shipping.
    Milk samples go in the same 3ml sample tube, half from each teat.
     
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  12. Feira426

    Feira426 Well-Known Member

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    Dec 11, 2019
    Texas
    Any news? I’m sorry you’re going through this - it must be so difficult. I truly hope you can figure it out and save your remaining goats!!
     
  13. Noisy Bottle Babies

    Noisy Bottle Babies Well-Known Member

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    Oct 7, 2019
    Galesville,WI
    Have no one else with symptoms got a scare on bottle jaw on one of our pregnant girls so got a fecal and wormed, this year has just not been fun we got our two new girls last week and they are staying inside the barn until we figure out what this is, it only effects goats outside
     
  14. Goats Rock

    Goats Rock Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    NE Ohio
    If its only outside, it must be environmental. Has anyone sprayed crops or a lawn service sprayed or something? (Crop field 100 feet to my North, they sprayed the soybean spray for weeds one year- it blew into my barn and I lost a couple does to chemical pneumonia- boy was I mad)..

    Did they drop raccoon rabies bait? (they do that around here and it makes our dogs really sick if they find it) They aren't spraying for some invasive tree bugs or anything?

    Have your goats been eating frozen grass? Have you had problems with neighbors? Strangers feeding something to the goats? Sorry for the off the wall questions, but if its only outside goats, that is strange. I sure hope you can solve your sad mystery!
     
  15. Crazy Little Goat

    Crazy Little Goat Active Member

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    Dec 29, 2017
    Southeast Ohio
    Is this something to be worried about? My goats are outside year round, so they are bound to eat grass with frost on it at some point. I've never heard of this precaution, so I would like to be educated on it please. Feel free to respond in a private message so as to not hi-jack this thread.
    Thanks.
     
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  16. goatblessings

    goatblessings Fair-Haven Supporting Member

    Jan 5, 2015
    Southwest Ohio
    I like to feed a hay ration before turn out. Depending on the type of grass in the pasture, it can at times cause toxicity problems.
     
  17. Noisy Bottle Babies

    Noisy Bottle Babies Well-Known Member

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    Oct 7, 2019
    Galesville,WI
    Another case taking fecal in swollen face like really swollen, this doe had already been dewormed so seeing what’s up
     
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  18. MadHouse

    MadHouse Well-Known Member

    I sure hope you are successful treating it this time! Good luck!
     
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  19. ksalvagno

    ksalvagno Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    You really really need a necropsy done. I hope she makes it so you don't need one.
     
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