Deadly disease going through my herd

Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by Noisy Bottle Babies, Nov 5, 2020.

  1. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    I'd really be looking into a bacterial issue, etc. not parasitic, being that it has happened in goats so young.

    I would start everybody on 3 cloves of raw garlic every day, tell your friends too.
     
  2. Goats Rock

    Goats Rock Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    NE Ohio
    Ok, so this may be way off base- but, with all your losses and the neighbors, etc. I would be looking to environmental. A few years ago, pregnant race horses were dying all over KY, they determined it was caused by a fungus.
    Here is part of the article:
    75% of all fescue is infected with the endophyte Acremonium coenophialum.

    An endophyte is a fungus that grows inside another plant without detriment to the host plant. In some instances, the fungus actually provides benefit to the host plant. Such is the case with Acremonium coenophialum. The fungus produces alkaloids, and these alkaloids protect the plant against certain natural insults such as insects and nematodes. Because of their increased durability, the plants become more tolerant to marginal soils and suboptimal growing conditions.


    Endophyte-infected tall fescue causes legions of problems, collectively called fescue toxicosis, in broodmares: prolonged gestation (as long as 13 to 14 months), foaling difficulties, thickened placentas (including “red bag” emergencies), and a decrease or complete absence of milk upon delivery. The ill effects of tall fescue consumption can continue beyond foaling frustrations, as affected mares may be hard to get back in foal, leaving breeders with a smaller foal crop the following year.


    Now, I am wondering if your collective hay and or silage has a similar infection. Have you contacted your local extension office? There may be a lot of farmers in your area with a similar problem that may be traced back to a common cause. Just an idea......
     
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  3. goatblessings

    goatblessings Fair-Haven Supporting Member

    Jan 5, 2015
    Southwest Ohio
    The ideas from local farmers is interesting, but really just a guess. I'm sure you are tired of losing animals, a necroposy is the only way to figure out what is going on. Yes it costs - but in the long run may save your whole herd - which costs more in $$ and heartache. Ivermectin and cydectin are the same class of wormers - not saying that it's not the problem - but you really don't know. Too many losses to guess at this point. I would contact your vet and find out what you have to do to get the necroposy done.
     
  4. Noisy Bottle Babies

    Noisy Bottle Babies Well-Known Member

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    Oct 7, 2019
    Galesville,WI
    We called the vet to do a necropsy and they said they close at 2 and don’t open until 8 we didn’t have a way to freeze her body so we had to bury her but we are looking at the possibility of making our pasture sandy, also the other doe that had extreme bottle jaw is better with a mixture of apple vinegar+honey+lemon it’s completely gone after 3 days but still continuing dosage
     
  5. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    Gosh, I wish you would have at least done a self-necropsy, cutting open and checking organs and digestive system for parasites is what they do in the field when vets aren’t available.

    We REALLY needed to know what was going on but I hope we can just prevent it.

    I’d rest your pasture/rotate them from wherever they are living now or do a deep clean out of all bedding.

    Start everyone on a ton of garlic - please please please!! 3-4 cloves per goat daily.

    I’d also go to fir Meadow LLC’s website and purchase DWA, GI Soother, and HerBiotic.

    All three essential.

    Let’s save your goats and never let this awful thing happen again, I am so sorry for this ordeal in your herd.
     
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  6. Noisy Bottle Babies

    Noisy Bottle Babies Well-Known Member

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    Oct 7, 2019
    Galesville,WI
    yeah definitely going to do that, first year ever having another like this with 5 years owning goats, I don’t know how to actually dissect an animal except for a frog so I wouldn’t have been much help if I would’ve done that, we are also getting all our fecals done this month
     
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  7. Goats Rock

    Goats Rock Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    NE Ohio
    Its really hard to cut open a pet- but, don't look at the face- I cover their head, then it's just another animal. Sharp knife and be sure and do it when you aren't crying! (yeah, tears turn into cut fingers).