I read the sticky surgical banding dehorning method and really think it could be something I will utilize. I've been going back and forth on whether or not to allow horns in my herd and I think for everyone's safety and management, horns should be removed. That being said, which methods are permanent and how do I deal with scurs? I know disbudding is permanent when done properly. I feel like the banding, if done properly, is permanent as well. A local vet offers the gigli wire procedure, but does that prevent them form coming back entirely? If I were to do the surgical banding method myself, where can I get a bottle of Lidocaine?