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So I need to pick your brains. We have had a out break of something at our farm. The baby goats mainly are affected. First symptoms diarrhea lethargic off feed. Temps are normal. We tube them fluids and give corid because we have been dealing with coccidia. We give them probiotics and vit b shots per vet instructions. We have lost four in two days. Can tubing a goat cause bloat? When we are tubing them they get bloated and pass later that day. All are dehydrated from diarrhea but won't drink. Any ideas? Vet believes its coccidia and bacterial infection in the gut.
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Vit B shots really shouldn't be given during Corid treatment. The whole point of Corid is for coccidia to become depleted of B vitamins. Have you tried giving SubQ fluids instead? Tubing shouldn't cause bloat.
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How old are the kids? Is corid diluted and dose based on weight? How much per pound?
Why are you tubing fluids? Are they weened, not drinking? Tubing Done correctly itself should not cause bloat but too much fluid or getting into lungs can cause severe issue.
You said mostly kids...who else is acting this way, age and are you giving same treatment?
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I agree tubing does not cause bloat.

It is most likely cocci and the ones who died, treatment was given too late unfortunately. :(

Don’t give thiamine with corid.
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So everything i did was per vet instruction. All kids are weaned. 6 months of age
I was giving 1cc per 5 lbs. That didn't sound right to me,but I've lost so many babies I have lost faith in myself as a care taker. I tube them because they have diarrhea and are dehydrated. They go off food and water and die quickly. We haven't been using corid this year. We switched to tortrazuril. I lost four in two days. We have five left they have been wormed and treated for coccidia. All are healthy at moment
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Vit B shots really shouldn't be given during Corid treatment. The whole point of Corid is for coccidia to become depleted of B vitamins. Have you tried giving SubQ fluids instead? Tubing shouldn't cause bloat.
How do I give sub q fluids? I would love another route for fluid intake.
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How old are the kids? Is corid diluted and dose based on weight? How much per pound?
Why are you tubing fluids? Are they weened, not drinking? Tubing Done correctly itself should not cause bloat but too much fluid or getting into lungs can cause severe issue.
You said mostly kids...who else is acting this way, age and are you giving same treatment?
Everything is given by weight dosage. We have had a few yearlings die also with diarrhea. Waiting on necropsy results.
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With your 6 month olds
Give them flat room temperature DARK beer. Make sure their is not any foam. Drench them with this. This will releive the bloat. And flush the kidneys. Put electrolytes in all your waterers.
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You need to get sterile saline solution from the vet in an IV bag. The vet can give you the needle to attach to the bag. Then put the needle in SubQ in an area with a lot of space and open up the flutter and let the solution slowly go in. The vet could probably explain it better.
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So I got the results from the neocropsy. He said the goat passed of severe coccidia burden. Any advice on helping with that? We treat every three weeks starting at weaning with tortrazuril. Single dose then reweigh and redose in three weeks. 1cc per 5 lbs
If toltrazuril is not addressing it you will need to switch it up.
Grab some Dimethox (also under the name, Sulfa Drug and Albon) it's injectable given orally. 1 cc per 5 pounds day one snd 1 cc per 10 pounds day 2-5. Repeat every 21 days until weened. If they are weening age already, do a round and refecal them. I would also do tummy tamer 2 times a day until all are well and doing great.
Tummy Tamer
1 teaspoon each
Cayenne pepper
Ginger
Cinnamon
Clove (for coccidia)
Slippery elm
ACV
Molasses
20-30 cc water
Blend all together with 1-2 fresh garlic cloves until smooth and drench. If the amount is too much for tiny tots, split in 2 and gice 4 times a day.
This blend is my go to and very effective.

Best wishes
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I agree with Cathy.
Ive always used Corrid. The mixing directions are on the ThreadMedicine Cabinet 2020. Its a drench by weight, for 5 days. I dont know about you, but I would rather drench, or ball gun, than give a kid a shot. Especially several kids, several shots.
Glad you had the necropsy done. Good job! Now you know how to end this problem.
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All kids are weaned off mom. Most have passed. Will do sulfa meds next go round for coccidia.
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I'm sorry they passed. Toltrazuril is usually very effective but have heard some who got it from a different vendor didn't look the same..maybe a bad batch? Or expired?
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I am sorry. :(
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