disbudding emergency!!

Discussion in 'Goat Frenzy' started by andiplus5, Mar 24, 2008.

  1. andiplus5

    andiplus5 New Member

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    Mar 8, 2008
    central Iowa
    I disbudded 6 kids yesterday. It was my first time and all are doing well. Except one. Her little horn buds are oozing thick pus and she is listless. She didn't even make a noise when I took her from her mom and into the house. Usually when I pick up any of them and walk to the house they call to momma the whole way, including this one. My question is what should I do? How do I know if she's really even sick or infected? Thanks in advance,
    Andi in OK
     
  2. RunAround

    RunAround New Member

    Feb 17, 2008
    Massachusetts
    First off take a deep breath.

    Can you get a picture of where you burned? What kind of disbudder did you use? How long did you burn for? What color is the pus? Does it smell?
     

  3. Di

    Di Crazy Goat Lady

    Jan 29, 2008
    central PA
    Well, I'm sure someone else will chime in here. But, once before with this subject they were telling the person to call the vet! She may have some swelling in her brain (I think), anyway, if it were me I would call the vet ASAP! Hope someone else reads this soon, they can give more help then I can...Good Luck, I'll pray for your baby. Di
     
  4. jBlaze

    jBlaze New Member

    254
    Oct 9, 2007
    Oregon
    Take her temperature and call the vet, sorry I can't help more. Hope she's better soon.
     
  5. andiplus5

    andiplus5 New Member

    45
    Mar 8, 2008
    central Iowa
    swelling in the brain? I just called the vet. they said i knew more about goats than they did. if I want to take her in, I can in the morning, but other than that they didn't know what to tell me. The vet is calling back after hours because he's swamped right now. What's this about swelling in the brain??
    Andi
     
  6. RunAround

    RunAround New Member

    Feb 17, 2008
    Massachusetts
    Are there any other vets you can call?

    Also when you disbudded did you give any shots?
     
  7. Muddy Creek Farm

    Muddy Creek Farm New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Keokuk, Iowa
    Swelling in the brain is caused by too much heat. She needs a shot of Dexamethasone (i think that is what it is called) ASAP, to reduce swelling.
     
  8. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    what color is the puss?

    You can give her some asprin (childrens - 81mg) to help with any pain.

    I assume she isn't eating if she is that listless. Make sure she stays hydrated even if you have to syringe feed her every couple hours.

    I believe (but check with the vet and others) Banamine (sp?) will help with any swelling that might have accured. When disbudding if you hold the iron on to long there is always that chance you will cause swelling. If it doesn't go down fast enough it can cause permenant damage.
     
  9. Muddy Creek Farm

    Muddy Creek Farm New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Keokuk, Iowa
    If Banamine is easier then just do that. I'll pray for her recovery!
     
  10. Di

    Di Crazy Goat Lady

    Jan 29, 2008
    central PA
    Oh Thank God. I've been so worried about this baby, I knew more experienced help would be on here before long.

    How's she doing? Did you find a livestock Vet? I hope she's just a little tramatized and will be up and playing soon. One of mine did that. I think he was pouting.

    :grouphug: Di
     
  11. andiplus5

    andiplus5 New Member

    45
    Mar 8, 2008
    central Iowa
    Ok, when I decided not to wait for the doc to call me back, I took Katara (that's her name) to the feed store. The man that owns the feed store is a friend of mine and he has a huge dairy goat herd. I got my buck from him. While I was in there several other goat farmers were there and we all got to talking about what was best for her. She just has an infected burn area where the horn bud was. The iron slipped when she bolted while I was burning. It knocked the horn bud off and the middle area became infected. We put some gloopy antibiotic cream on it and she got a half an aspirin per orders from another goat lady. lol In my opinion going to the feed store is better than going to the vet's! Anyway, Katara went back to mom when we got home and first thing she did was eat! She is up and around now and eating good. Hopefully, by tomorrow she will be fine. If not I have a standing appt. at the vet's. All I have to do is call and tell them I'm on my way. (I'm good friends with the receptionist there too). Big county, small town attitude. Love it here! thanks everybody for caring and praying and for your advice!
    Andi
     
  12. jBlaze

    jBlaze New Member

    254
    Oct 9, 2007
    Oregon
    I want a feed store like that!!!!
    Here, they aren't real sure what a goat is, lol. :)
    Glad you have it in hand.
     
  13. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    thats awesome Andi. Great advise, glad you were able to get some people to look at her and give their expertise.

    Just as a point of reference, the reason I asked about the color of the puss is because I was thinking a possible infection, but brain swelling being a possibility was priority.

    SO GLAD that she is eating :cool:
     
  14. Di

    Di Crazy Goat Lady

    Jan 29, 2008
    central PA
    Good news! I love good news! Just in case you guys haven't noticed yet, I may have a tendency to over-react. I blame it on the fact that I had 3 sons (it's always an emergency room crisis with boys).

    I need a feed store like that one!
     
  15. Muddy Creek Farm

    Muddy Creek Farm New Member

    Oct 5, 2007
    Keokuk, Iowa
  16. sweetgoats

    sweetgoats Moderator

    Oct 18, 2007
    Peyton CO.
    DI, I totally agree with you. :lol: Boys odr girls, I was always running to the ER for something.

    Andi, how is she doing today? It sounds like you have some wonderful feed store people. Glad they were there for you.
     
  17. andiplus5

    andiplus5 New Member

    45
    Mar 8, 2008
    central Iowa
    She is doing great today! Like she was never sick. She's running and jumping with the best of them out there. :cool:
    Andi
     
  18. RunAround

    RunAround New Member

    Feb 17, 2008
    Massachusetts
    Good to hear! :leap:
     
  19. StaceyRosado

    StaceyRosado Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Oct 4, 2007
    NJ
    Thats what we love to hear. Thats awesome that you were able to get the help you needed. Thats why I love animal people