Doe always panting

Discussion in 'Goat Management' started by Nigerian dwarf goat, May 21, 2020.

  1. Nigerian dwarf goat

    Nigerian dwarf goat Well-Known Member

    Sep 24, 2017
    Texas
    The vet was also stumped... he said she could lose a bit if weight, and I just have to help keep her cool. He said it wasn’t life threatening, and not to worry too much.
     
  2. Nigerian dwarf goat

    Nigerian dwarf goat Well-Known Member

    Sep 24, 2017
    Texas
    The temps of winter were maybe about 50 to 60 degrees that she would pant
     

  3. Goatzrule

    Goatzrule Well-Known Member

    Feb 7, 2013
    New England
    What does her nasal passages look like. I had a doe who would pant if things got too stuffy because her nose tube (idk what to call it) were just too small for her to breath properly
     
  4. Nigerian dwarf goat

    Nigerian dwarf goat Well-Known Member

    Sep 24, 2017
    Texas
  5. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    Did the vet check her lung capacity.
    Check for anything growing in the lungs or abnormality?

    Does she cough?

    Maybe check for nasal bot?
     
  6. Nigerian dwarf goat

    Nigerian dwarf goat Well-Known Member

    Sep 24, 2017
    Texas
    No cough, He just listened to her. I didn't take her anywhere, so all he had was a stethoscope.

    How do I check for nasal bot
     
  7. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    I don't know... I hate to second guess a veterinarian, but open mouthed panting in 50-60 degree F temperatures is just not right. I suppose it could be a stress/anxiety reaction as you said it happens when her companion is out of sight. Maybe she is an extremely anxious doe.
     
  8. Nigerian dwarf goat

    Nigerian dwarf goat Well-Known Member

    Sep 24, 2017
    Texas
    Yes she is anxious. She is the lowest on the totem pole and gets beat up a lot. Poor girl. She has 2 buddies, one came from the same place, and they remembered each other, (I think that's adorable, with 9 months without seeing each other) and one that Clara (her remembered buddy) got to be friends with when she was baby, so they are like the 3 musketeers.
    It would make more sense if I could map out the whole herd dynamics, but I'm sure all arent interested lol
     
  9. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    Haha I'm sure it would make more sense - have you tried to put her in a smaller area with her buddies to see if the panting subsides?
     
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  10. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    I haven't read this whole thread, so let me go back and catch up.
     
  11. Nigerian dwarf goat

    Nigerian dwarf goat Well-Known Member

    Sep 24, 2017
    Texas
    Thinking about it, the other doe that pants has bad separation anxiety. But she pants when she gets hot only, not when she gets nervous
     
  12. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    Okay. My thoughts/questions:

    Does she chew cud normally?
    I know the vet listened to her heart, but put your head up to her chest and listen to her respirations.
    You got a clean fecal, but did you examine for lungworm with a baerrman?

    Also, she could have had lungworm at one point, which caused scarring, or pneumonia, again something that could have damaged her passages. I would start her on some slippery elm bark powder, put some VetRX in her nostrils, and give this herbal blend: https://www.firmeadowllc.com/store/p831/Herb_Mix_BreatheDeeplee!_Lung_Support_8_oz.html
     
  13. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    lungworm, duh! of course! Didn't consider that as I've never seen it.

    Super interested to hear if she test positive.

    Meadow Mist Lab offers the test but I think they are temporarily closed right now.
     
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  14. Nigerian dwarf goat

    Nigerian dwarf goat Well-Known Member

    Sep 24, 2017
    Texas
    Yes, she definitely chews her cud lol! I come out there and shes got a huge was in her cheek, just chewing away!
    He did also listen to her lungs, because I have a few others who were coughing, and he said hers sounded really good.

    I could do that, but she was dewormed with ivermectin, the whole routine, so I think that would have killed them right?
     
  15. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    Worth a test anyways, won’t hurt.

    Like I said, she could have had it a while ago and the scarring might still be there, which would just make breathing capacity much less. Even if she got NutriDrench a lot in her life, the caustic effects of that could have scarred her. We may need to think about past issues and effects, rather than present problems. Try the products I recommended!
     
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  16. NigerianDwarfOwner707

    NigerianDwarfOwner707 Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2018
    East Coast, USA
    Have not heard that they are temporarily closed right now!
     
  17. SalteyLove

    SalteyLove Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2011
    New England
    yes posted on Facebook. Closed through June 1.
     
  18. Nigerian dwarf goat

    Nigerian dwarf goat Well-Known Member

    Sep 24, 2017
    Texas
    I will go ahead and ask the first owner about her, if she got lungworms, lots of nutridrench etc. and if not, then I might get that test done.
     
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  19. toth boer goats

    toth boer goats Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2008
    Corning California
    If it is lungworms, by now, severe lung damage has been done.
    She may not improve much, even with treatment at this point.
    I am curious to know if it is lungworms or not.