Tie one back leg up so she has only one back leg to stand on.
Doe WON’T stop kicking over milk bucket.
I have a ND doe that I have been milking for about 3-4 weeks now and she will not stop kicking over the bucket and moving her legs and kicking me… I have tried rope, and holding one of her legs but she still kicks every time I touch her udder. She is also not motivated by food so she would rather kick me a million times than eat her food. Any tips would be highly appreciated.
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I like the hobble sold by Caprine Supply. They have a small size. I could never get rope or a belt to keep them restrained.
(I have also been known to pick up a spilled or stepped in bucket and pour what is left over her head.)
I am NOT recommending that but it helped.😏
(I have also been known to pick up a spilled or stepped in bucket and pour what is left over her head.)
I am NOT recommending that but it helped.😏
Okay… I will try that.Tie one back leg up so she has only one back leg to stand on.
It is soooo beyond frustrating, this is when I feel like selling all my goats and never getting them again 😩😭 I’ll look into the hobbles!I like the hobble sold by Caprine Supply. They have a small size. I could never get rope or a belt to keep them restrained.
(I have also been known to pick up a spilled or stepped in bucket and pour what is left over her head.)
I am NOT recommending that but it helped.😏
I had a FF that was a horrible kicker on the milking stand! It was soooo frustrating!! What worked for me was this (hard to explain, but I'll try my best; let me know if I need to clear anything up): I took a dog leash and put both of her hooves in the loop of the leash where you would hold onto when walking a dog (or goat). I put it up only about ankle height and then did a figure eight around her legs with the leash. Next, I looped the leash around it's self (in the middle of her legs) several times. Then, I used the remaining length of the leash to wrap it around the milking stand leg to secure everything and make sure the doe could not kick! Depending on the size of the leash you use and the diameter of the legs of your milking stand, you may need to use an extra leash or vice versa (wrap the leash around the stand leg multiple times to make things fairly tight). Good luck! I hope you can find a solution soon!
I had just seen something similar to this on an article... Thank you soooo much for giving an in-depth tutorial on how to do it. I am going to try it right now!I had a FF that was a horrible kicker on the milking stand! It was soooo frustrating!! What worked for me was this (hard to explain, but I'll try my best; let me know if I need to clear anything up): I took a dog leash and put both of her hooves in the loop of the leash where you would hold onto when walking a dog (or goat). I put it up only about ankle height and then did a figure eight around her legs with the leash. Next, I looped the leash around it's self (in the middle of her legs) several times. Then, I used the remaining length of the leash to wrap it around the milking stand leg to secure everything and make sure the doe could not kick! Depending on the size of the leash you use and the diameter of the legs of your milking stand, you may need to use an extra leash or vice versa (wrap the leash around the stand leg multiple times to make things fairly tight). Good luck! I hope you can find a solution soon!
I really like it when they wait until I am almost finished so they can dump the whole bucket.
Even more than a kicker, I truly enjoy the ones that can jump/buck and put both back feet in the bucket.
Even more than a kicker, I truly enjoy the ones that can jump/buck and put both back feet in the bucket.
With mine, I took two lengths of thick cotton rope made a slip knot in one end and tied the other end to the back legs of my stand. Then when miss ornery is on the stand I used the slip knot end to secure her legs stretched back so there’s no forward motion the more she pulls the tighter they got. It didn’t take long not to kick with these on. Id praise her for standing still, ignore her when she’s being bratty. Keeping one hand on her udder always though till she thinks it belongs there. It’s worked with a couple of FF. I try to get them used to ligs and udders being touched when they’re being raised though and that helps the most.
Theres nothing more frustrating than a bucket of milk dumped after struggling to get the milk to begin with…I feel for you! Hang in there!
Theres nothing more frustrating than a bucket of milk dumped after struggling to get the milk to begin with…I feel for you! Hang in there!
I used a hobble on our one doe who had a rough go of it when she was a first freshener. I think I got mine from Caprine Supply. It worked well. I also milked her one side at a time, into a mason jar I held in my other hand so no matter how much jumping around she did, I could jerk it out of her way.
Once she's used to the sensation and realizes resistance is futile, hopefully she'll get better! Maria, our jumpy doe, only needed the hobbles for like a week and a half. And when she freshened the following year she was great on the stand from day one.
Once she's used to the sensation and realizes resistance is futile, hopefully she'll get better! Maria, our jumpy doe, only needed the hobbles for like a week and a half. And when she freshened the following year she was great on the stand from day one.
I have a pair of hobbles I use and if the doe is really bad I'll tye a rope from the hobbles to a leg of the stand. Like others have said, always keep a hand on the udder even when she is being a brat so she learns to just deal with it.
I have one that is an overachiever and does both.I really like it when they wait until I am almost finished so they can dump the whole bucket.
Even more than a kicker, I truly enjoy the ones that can jump/buck and put both back feet in the bucket.
BEYOND FRUSTRATING is a gross understatement.It is soooo beyond frustrating, this is when I feel like selling all my goats and never getting them again 😩😭
My first milker in 2010 was impossible. We fought and I think I even cried a few times. I think she was the one who got a bucket of milk poured on her head.
My husband grabbed her face and told her she would be on the bbq if she didn't behave. That did help some. We actually hung a hoist so she could be lifted off her feet. Lots of work but I could get some milk.
The hobble finally arrived and I was amazed at how quickly she adjusted to it.
In later years she became one of my best milkers.
Good luck to you. It will work out with time.🤩
When you get a small amount in the bucket, pour into a different bucket, so if she steps in it or dumps it, you only lose a little.
Sometimes, they are just too sensitive. Handle her udder every time you feed, pet, etc. (of course, short fingernails do help, too!)
Good luck, nothing is more frustrating than a stubborn, kicky doe!
Sometimes, they are just too sensitive. Handle her udder every time you feed, pet, etc. (of course, short fingernails do help, too!)
Good luck, nothing is more frustrating than a stubborn, kicky doe!
I have used this method as well. I got this 5Cup stainless steel pitcher from IKEA. It works perfect for milking a little and pouring into bucket.When you get a small amount in the bucket, pour into a different bucket, so if she steps in it or dumps it, you only lose a little.
With The Brat I could hold it by the handle as I milked when she would dance.
I have done the milk some, then put it in a different bucket. It does help.
I had one of my first Miller's that liked to kick. Her previous owners had never milked her before I got her. I took a set of hobbled and disconnected the two leg loops to make basically an ankle bracelet for each hind leg. I then took a small lead rope and clipped to each "bracelet". I then wrapped the lead ropes around the stands hind support legs. Right leg to right stand leg and left to left. She could still move and had even some distance to draw her leg up but could not reach the bucket. After awhile she learned not to kick and started enjoying her grain and boss while on the stand. After that we stopped the leg tying routine. I had the nice soft thick fleece padded hobbles. So no injuries happened, but I would still suggest having another person the first time you try it.
I have a first freshener doe who likes to kick etc. she’s a full size Nubian. Her kids are 2 mo old and she’s getting better but still doesn’t just stand there for me so I can milk her. Tried hobbling and it’s a real challenge as well. So for her I take a quart canning jar, for a small doe like yours maybe a wide mouth pint canning jar and I hold it in one hand and milk with the other. That way I am ready and can quickly move the jar out of the way when she kicks. As well as I don’t risk the chance of losing the milk in my milk Pail from the other does I’ve already milked. For me that has been the easiest thing to do. And I’ve become very quick at moving the jar out of the way before she can kick it.
milk into one bucket and when you get a little in there dump into another bucket. It took both hubby and meself 2 months for me to be able tomilk my standard nub alone for her ff. Then it was another monthish before i could untruss her. We had to use a tow rope under her chest because she liked to pray during milking and i had hobble one leg and push her against the wall firmly with my body. She was absolutely terrible. Lol. I can laugh now but there were many frustrated tears from this one. But one day she decided she could eat while i milked and it was like ooo watch dis maman. And we were done with the dramas.I have a ND doe that I have been milking for about 3-4 weeks now and she will not stop kicking over the bucket and moving her legs and kicking me… I have tried rope, and holding one of her legs but she still kicks every time I touch her udder. She is also not motivated by food so she would rather kick me a million times than eat her food. Any tips would be highly appreciated.
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